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Madras Mint – Reformation – Gold, Two Pagodas 1808 to 1817

 

(Persian = do hun = Two hun):

(Tamil = 2 vara kun, Telugu = 2 varahani = 2 hun)

Seven tiered Gopuram of a temple, standing on stony ground. Seven or nine stars on each side. All this surrounded by a buckled garter. On the garter is the value in English:

TWO PAGODAS

and Persian.

Figure of Vishnu holding a sword in his left hand. Dotted symbols on each side with crescents and lotus flowers below. All surrounded by three circles of beads. All this within a ribbon, the ends separated by a star. On the ribbon is the value in Tamil and Telugu. All within a beaded border.

 

Official Weight (g)

5.94

Actual Weight (g)

5.87-5.92

Actual Diameter (mm)

20.1-21.6

Edge

Grained Right

Composition

Gold

Axis

↑↑

Mintage

1,063,912

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Obv

Rev

Obverse

Reverse

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

Stars

Stops

Buckle

Gopuram

3 Circles

Stop

3.1

√ 192c.

A

I

9/9

End

Oval

OD

Yes

Yes

RJ

R

3.2

√ 192.

A

II

9/9

End

Oval

OD

Yes

No

Ste

 

R

3.3

√ 193.

A

IV

9/9

End

Oval

OD

No

No

Stacks, Her

R

3.4

√ 194.

B

I

9/9

End

Oval

O

Yes

Yes

Ste, Anantha Raghuraman

 

R

3.5

√ 195.

B

II

9/9

End

Oval

O

Yes

No

Oswal, New York

R

3.5A

√ 195b.

B

III

9/9

End

Oval

O

No

Yes

Sincona

R

3.6

√ 195c.

B

IV

9/9

End

Oval

O

No

No

Spink, Noon, Katz

Authenticity suspect on some specimens

R

3.8

√ 197.

C

III

9/9

End

Oval

G

No

Yes

Ste

 

R

3.7

√ 196.

C1

IV

9/9

End

Oval

G

No

No

Noon

R

3.9

√ 196b.

D

I

9/9

End

Oval

GO

Yes

Yes

Bald

R

3.10

√ 196c.

D

III

9/9

End

Oval

GO

No

Yes

Bald, SA

 

R

3.11

√ 196d.

D

IV

9/9

End

Oval

GO

No

No

Tody

 

R

3.12

√ 196e.

E

II

9/9

End

Oval

D

Yes

No

Bald

R

3.12C

√ 196g.

E

IV

9/9

End

Oval

D

No

No

St James

R

3.13

198.

F

II

9/9

End

Square

GO

Yes

No

 

Ref: BM

RR

3.14

199.

F

IV

9/9

End

Square

GO

No

No

Ref: BM

Dot group in Persian legend on obverse

RR

3.15

√ 201.

G

IV

9/9

End

Square

G

No

No

Ste

 

RR

3.16

201c.

H

III

9/9

End

Square

O

No

Yes

 

RR

3.17

√ 201e.

H

IV

9/9

End

Square

O

No

No

Stacks

RR

3.18

√ 202d.

I

II

9/9

C+E

Oval

GO

Yes

No

Tody, Noon

R

3.19

√ 202a.

I

IV

9/9

C+E

Oval

GO

No

No

Bald

 

R

3.19C

√ 202b.

I1

IV

9/9

C+E

Oval

G

No

No

SA (viaRJ)

 

R

3.20

√ 202c.

J

II

9/9

C+E

Oval

OD

Yes

No

St James

R

3.21

√ 202e.

K

II

9/9

C+E

Oval

O

Yes

No

Stacks, Zeno

R

3.21A

√ 202f.

K

III

9/9

C+E

Oval

O

No

Yes

Her

R

3.22

√ 202g.

K

IV

9/9

C+E

Oval

O

No

No

Bald

R

3.22C

√ 202i.

K1

IV

9/9

C+E

Oval

D

No

No

RJ

R

3.23

√ 203.

L

IV

9/9

None

Oval

O

No

No

 Elsen

R

3.24

204.

M

IV

7/7

None

Square

G

No

No

 

Ref: BM

RR

3.24C

√ 204e.

N

II

7/7

None

Oval

O

Yes

No

Noon

RR

3.25

√ 204c.

N

IV

7/7

None

Oval

O

No

No

Stacks, Her

RR

3.26

√ 200.

O

IV

7/7

End

Square

GO

No

No

Ste, Busso-Peus

Group of dots in Persian legend on obverse

RR

3.26C

√ 200c.

P

IV

7/7

End

Square

O

No

No

SG, Her, RJ

RR

 

Obverse Varieties

Number of stars

The number of stars on each side of the gopuram can vary.

Stops in Legend

There may be no stops, an end stop alone, or a centre stop plus an end stop in the English legend

Shape of Buckle

The buckle may be oval, large oval or square

Gopuram

The centreline of the gopuram may point between the letters G and O, between the letters O and D, or directly at the letter G, O or D.

 

 

A

B

C

C1

D

E

F

G

H

Number of stars

9/9

9/9

9/9

9/9

9/9

9/9

9/9

9/9

9/9

Stops in Legend

End

End

End

End

End

End

End

End

End

Shape of Buckle

Oval

Oval

Oval

Large Oval

Oval

Oval

Square

Square

Square

Gopuram

OD

O

G

G

GO

D

GO

G

O

 

 

I

I1

J

K

K1

L

M

N

O

P

Number of stars

9/9

9/9

9/9

9/9

9/9

9/9

7/7

7/7

7/7

7/7

Stops in Legend

C+E

C+E

C+E

C+E

C+E

None

None

None

End

End

Shape of Buckle

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Square

Oval

Square

Square

Gopuram

GO

G

OD

O

D

O

G

O

GO

O

 

Reverse Varieties

3 circles of beads

All three circles of beads are complete, or the stalk of the lotus flower or other symbols interrupt one or more of the circles.

Bead in Telugu legend

There may or may not be a bead in the Telugu legend at bottom right.

 

 

I

II

III

IV

3 circles of beads

Yes

Yes

No

No

Bead in Telugu legend

Yes

No

Yes

No

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Gold, Pagoda 1808 to 1817

 

(Persian = hun = hun)

(Tamil = vara kun  Telugu = varahani = hun)

Seven-tiered Gopuram of a temple, standing on stony ground. Five stars on each side. All this surrounded by a buckled garter. On the garter is the value in English:

PAGODA

and Persian. All within a beaded border.

Figure of Vishnu holding a sword in his left hand. Dotted symbols on each side with crescents and lotus flowers below. All surrounded by one circle of beads. All this within a ribbon, the ends separated by a star. On the ribbon is the value in Tamil and Telugu separated by a bead. All within a beaded border.

 

Official Weight (g)

2.97

Actual Weight (g)

2.90-3.00

Actual Diameter (mm)

16.8-17.6

Edge

Grained Right

Axis

↑↑

Mintage

1,381,809

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Obv

Rev

Obverse

Reverse

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

Buckle

Gopuram

Beads in Cross

Stop

Sword

3.27

√ 205.

A

I

Oval

O

11/9

Yes

 

Ste, Spink

 

R

3.27C

√ 205c.

A

Ia

Oval

O

11/9

Yes

LH & RH

Anantha Raghuraman

 

RR

3.28

√ 206.

A

III

Oval

O

1/11

Yes

 

Ste

Previously listed as reverse II with 13 dots left. A malformed crescent looks like two extra dots. See photos

RR

3.28C

√ 206c.

A

V

Oval

O

9/11

Yes

 

Gsrctr

 

RR

3.28E

√ 206e.

A

VI

Oval

O

9/11

No

 

World of Coins, Tody

 

RR

3.29

√ 207.

B

I

Oval

OD

11/9

Yes

 

Ste, Noon

Ref: Puddester

S

3.30

208.

B

III

Oval

OD

11/11

Yes

 

 

Ref: Thompson

RR

3.31

√ 208c.

C

I

Oval

D

11/11

Yes

 

Oswal, Noble

R

3.32

√ 209.

C

III

Oval

D

11/11

Yes

 

Ste

 

R

3.33

√ 210.

D

I

Square

OD

11/9

Yes

 

Ste, Noon, RJ

Exists with and without a group of 3 diamonds in the obverse Persian legend, or a bead above Vishnu. See Photos

S

3.33B

√ 210c.

D

III

Square

OD

11/11

Yes

 

RJ

 

R

3.34

√ 211.

D

IV

Square

OD

11/9

No

 

Ste

Authenticity suspect on some specimens.

R

3.35

√ 212.

E

I

Square

D

11/9

Yes

 

Ste, Tody, Noon

S

3.36

√ 213.

F

I

Square

O

11/9

Yes

 

Noble, ClassNG, Noon

 

S

3.36C

√ 213c.

F

III

Square

O

11/11

Yes

 

Coin World

 

S

3.37

√ 214.

F

IV

Square

O

11/9

No

 

ClassNG

See photos for one with a continuous circle of dots under Vishnu

RR

-

√ 215.

-

-

-

-

-

-

 

Ste

Jeweller’s copy. Wt = 3.09g. Diam = 18.4-18.7mm

NR

 

Obverse Varieties

Buckle Shape

The buckle may be square or oval.

Gopuram

The centreline of the gopuram may point between the letters O and D, directly at the letter O, or directly at the letter D.

 

 

A

B

C

D

E

F

Buckle Shape

Oval

Oval

Oval

Square

Square

Square

Gopuram

O

OD

D

OD

D

O

 

Reverse Varieties

Stop in Legend

There is usually a stop between the Tamil and Telugu legends. On some coins this stop is not present.

Top Left Cross

To the left of Vishnu is an arrangement of dots topped by a cross shape, representing one of his wives. The number of dots that form this figure varies.

Top Right Cross

To the right of Vishnu is an arrangement of dots topped by a cross shape, representing one of his wives. The number of dots that form this figure varies.

Vishnu's Sword

The facing figure of Vishnu usually holds a sword in his left hand, but rarer examples exist with the sword in both hands.

 

 

I

Ia

III

IV

V

VI

Stop in Legend

Yes

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

No

Top Left Cross

11

11

11

11

9

9

Top Right Cross

9

9

11

9

11

11

Vishnu’s Sword

LH

LH & RH

LH

LH

LH

LH

Reverse II with 13 dots left has been deleted. It has 11 dots with a distorted crescent. See Cat No. 3.28

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Silver, Half Pagoda 1807 to 1808

 

(Persian = Nim hun phuli = half a flower, or star, pagoda)

(Tamil = Arai pu vara kun, Telugu = Ara pu varahani = half a flower, or star, pagoda)

Nine tiered Gopuram of a temple, standing on stony ground. Between eight and eighteen stars on each side. All this surrounded by a ribbon, the ends of which are separated by a star. On the ribbon is the value in English:

HALF PAGODA

and Persian.

Figure of Vishnu holding a sword in his left hand. Dotted symbols on each side with crescents and lotus flowers below. All surrounded by three, four or five circles of beads. Around this is the value in Tamil and Telugu. All within a beaded or toothed border.

 

Official Weight (g)

21.17

Actual Weight (g)

20.55-21.29

Actual Diameter (mm)

35.4-37.4

Composition

Silver

Edge

Grained Right

Axis

↑↑

Mintage

500,800

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Obv

Rev

Obverse

Reverse

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

Stars

Persian

Circles of Beads

Crosses

Tamil

Telugu

Ornaments

3.38

√ 224.

A

I

18

Inward

5

15/14

Left

Inward

Right

Outward

 

Ste, RJ, BM

R

3.39

225.

A

VIII

18

Inward

5

13/14

Left

Outward

Right

Outward

 

 

Ref: BM..

RR

3.40

√ 223.

B

IX

17+1+17

Outward

4

16/11

Left

Inward

Right

Outward

 

Ste

 

RR

3.41

√ 222.

C

VIII

16+17

Inward

5

13/14

Left

Outward

Right

Outward

 

Ste, Noon

Obverse: centre stop only, no end stop

RR

3.42

√ 222c.

D

III

16

Inward

5

17/16

Left

Inward

Right

Inward

 

Marudhar, ANS

RR

3.43

√ 221.

E

IV

15

Inward

5

16/14

Left

Inward

Right

Inward

 

Ste, Howard Simmons, Bombay, Noon

This coin was previously recorded incorrectly as having Rev V.

R

3.44

√ 221c.

E

VI

15

Inward

5

15/13

Left

Inward

Right

Inward

 

Bald

RR

3.45

√ 220.

F

VII

14

Inward

5

15/14

Right

Inward

Left

Inward

 

Ste, Noon

 

R

3.46

√ 220c.

G

II

14

Outward

5

15/13

Left

Inward

Right

Outward

 

Bald, Vikram Coins

See photos for a specimen that has turned in the die

RR

3.47

√ 218c.

G

IX

14

Outward

4

16/11

Left

Inward

Right

Outward

 

Ste

RR

3.48

√ 219.

G

X

14

Outward

4

14/16

Left

Inward

Right

Outward

Lotus left/Crescents right

Bald, RJ, CNG

RR

3.49

√ 218.

H

IX

13

Outward

4

16/11

Left

Inward

Right

Outward

 

ANS, Noon

RR

3.50

√ 217.

I

IV

12

Inward

5

16/14

Left

Inward

Right

Inward

 

Ste, Noon, Her

See photos for an example of an 8 reales used as the blank

RR

3.51

√ 216.

J

XI

8

Outward

3

16/13

Left

Inward

Right

Outward

 

Glen, Bald

Pattern. 31mm. Ref: Pr. sale part 2, Oct 1982, lot 370. Then Baldwin (2000), Sale 22 (Wheeler), lot 20. Axis: ↑↑

Unique?

 

Wt = 26.96g. Diam = 39.0-39.4mm. Mexican 8 reales (Dollar) – Spanish American 8 reales were used as blanks for the larger coins in this series

 

Au (%)

Ag (%)

Cu (%)

Zn (%)

Ni (%)

Sn (%)

Bi (%)

Pb (%)

As (%)

Fe (%)

0.16

91.27

7.82

0

0

0.43

0.1

0.22

0

0

0.16

92.77

6.47

0

0

0.4

0.06

0.14

0

0

Stevens Collection

 

Obverse Varieties

There is usually a centre and end stop in the English legend. However, on one variety (C) there is only a centre stop. Since this only occurs on this one obverse variety, and the number of stars is a more obvious distinguishing feature, the stops in the legend are not included as part of the variety identifiers.

 

Number of stars

The number of stars on each side of the gopuram can vary.

Persian Legend

The top of the Persian legend may face inward or outward.

 

 

A

B

C

D

E

Number of stars

18

17+1+17

16+17

16

15

Persian Legend

Inward

Outward

Inward

Inward

Inward

 

 

F

G

H

I

J

Number of stars

14

14

13

12

8

Persian Legend

Inward

Outward

Outward

Inward

Outward

 

Reverse Varieties

Circles of Beads

There may be 3, 4 or 5 circles of beads.

Top Left Cross

To the left of Vishnu is an arrangement of dots topped by a cross shape, representing one of his wives. The number of dots that form this figure varies.

Top Right Cross

To the right of Vishnu is an arrangement of dots topped by a cross shape, representing one of his wives. The number of dots that form this figure varies.

Tamil Legend

The Tamil legend may be at left or right and may face inward or outward.

Telugu Legend

The Telugu legend may be at left or right and may face inward or outward.

Ornaments

Normally there are crescents left of Vishnu and lotus flowers to right, but sometimes the positions are reversed

 

 

I

II

III

IV

VI

Circles of Beads

5

5

5

5

5

Top Left Cross

15

15

17

16

15

Top Right Cross

14

13

16

14

13

Tamil Legend

Left Inward

Left Inward

Left Inward

Left Inward

Left Inward

Telugu Legend

Right Outward

Right Outward

Right Inward

Right Inward

Right Inward

Ornaments

Normal

Normal

Normal

Normal

Normal

 

 

VII

VIII

IX

X

XI

Circles of Beads

5

5

4

4

3

Top Left Cross

15

13

16

14

16

Top Right Cross

14

14

11

16

13

Tamil Legend

Right Inward

Left Outward

Left Inward

Left Inward

Left Inward

Telugu Legend

Left Inward

Right Outward

Right Outward

Right Outward

Right Outward

Ornaments

Normal

Normal

Normal

Lotus left/Crescents right

Normal

Reverse V was originally added by mistake. The coin believed to have reverse V with 13 dots at the right, actually had reverse IV. No reverse V coins are known at present.

Reverses IX and XI have a plain circle surrounding the circles of beads while the other reverses do not. See Rev photos

 

Madras 17 Counterfeit 1807 Half Pagoda A I Obv   Madras 18 Counterfeit 1807 Half Pagoda A I Rev

Probable modern counterfeit of A/II sold on eBay originating from Russia

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Silver, Quarter Pagoda 1807 to 1808

 

(Persian = Pau hun Phuli = Quarter of a flower, or star, pagoda)

(Tamil = Kal vara kun, Telugu = Kai varahani = quarter pagoda)

NB. Bottom photo has one letter missing from the Telugu legend.

Seven-tiered Gopuram of a temple, standing on stony ground. Thirteen, eleven or nine stars on each side. All this surrounded by a ribbon, the ends of which are separated by a star. On the ribbon is the value in English:

QUARTER PAGODA

and Persian. All within a beaded or toothed border.

Figure of Vishnu holding a sword in his left hand. Dotted symbols on each side with crescents and lotus flowers below. All surrounded by three or four circles of beads. Around this is the value in Tamil and Telugu. All within a beaded border.

 

Official Weight (g)

10.58

Actual Weight (g)

10.36-10.74

Actual Diameter (mm)

25.8-27.2

Composition

Silver

Edge

Grained Right

Axis

↑↑

Mintage

1,772,896

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Obv

Rev

Obverse

Reverse

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

Stars

Persian

Letters

Circles

Stops

Beads

Tamil

Telugu

3.52

√ 233.

A

I

13+1+13

Outward

AGO

4

Quintets

16

8

Outward

SA, eBay, Noon

RR

3.53

√ 232.

B

II

11+1+11

Outward

AGO

4

Single

16

8

Outward Missing

Ste, RJ

Ref: SNC Sept 1976 pp. 319. SNC April 1980 pp. 147

RR

3.54

√ 232c.

B

III

11+1+11

Outward

AGO

3

Single

14

8

Outward

RJ, Marudhar, HC, Noon

 

RR

3.55

√ 226.

C

IV

9+9

Inward

AGO

3

Quintets

15

8

Inward

Ste, Noon

 

R

3.56

√ 227.

C

VI

9+9

Inward

AGO

3

4/5

15

8

Inward

Noon

R

3.56C

√ 227e.

C1

IV

9+9

Inward

PAGO

3

Quintets

15

8

Inward

Noble, RJ

RR

3.57

√ 228.

D

IV

9+9

Inward

GOD

3

Quintets

15

8

Inward

Ste, Noon, CNG

 

R

3.58

√ 229.

D

V

9+9

Inward

GOD

3

Quintets

15

9

Inward

RJ

RR

3.58C

227c.

D

VII

9+9

Inward

GOD?

3

Quintets

13

8

?

 

Ref: BM 1935.0401.12294

RR

3.59

√ 230.

E

IV

9+9

Inward

AGOD

3

Quintets

15

8

Inward

Ste, Noon

 

R

3.60

√ 231.

E

V

9+9

Inward

AGOD

3

Quintets

15

9

Inward

Ste

RR

 

Obverse Varieties

Number of stars

The number of stars on each side of the gopuram can vary.

Persian Legend

The top of the Persian legend may face inwards or outwards.

Letters under Gopuram

The base of the gopuram may be above the letters AGO, PAGO, GOD or AGOD of PAGODA. An easy way to distinguish these varieties is that the central line of the gopuram points straight to the G in the AGO and PAGO varieties, straight to the O on the GOD variety and between the G & O (or at least to one side of the O) in the AGOD variety.

 

 

A

B

C

C1

D

E

Number of stars

13+1+13

11+1+11

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

Persian Legend

Outward

Outward

Inward

Inward

Inward

Inward

Letters under Gopuram

AGO

AGO

AGO

PAGO

GOD

AGOD

 

Reverse Varieties

Circles of Beads

There may be three or four circles of beads surrounding Vishnu.

Stops in legend

The Tamil and Telugu legends may be separated by two quintets of dots arranged roughly in the shape of a diamond, a quartet of dots above Vishnu plus a quintet below, or by two single dots.

Beads in Cross to left of Vishnu

The number of beads to the left of Vishnu varies.

Letters in Tamil Legend

There can be different numbers of letters in the Tamil legend at left.

Telugu Legend

The top of the Telugu legend at right may be oriented outward or inward and the bottom letter may be missing

 

 

I

II

III

IV

V

VI

VII

Circles of Beads

4

4

3

3

3

3

3

Stops in legend

Quintets

Single

Single

Quintets

Quintets

Quartet + Quintet

Quintets

Beads in Cross to left of Vishnu

16

16

14

15

15

15

13

Letters in Tamil Legend

8

8

8

8

9

8

8

Telugu Legend

Outward

Outward

Letter missing

Outward

Inward

Inward

Inward

?

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Silver, Five Fanams 1807 to 1808

 

(Persian = Panj falam = Five fanams)

(Tamil = Anacu panam, Telugu = Aedu rukalu = Five fanams)

The value in Persian within a plain circle and surrounded by the value in English:

FIVE FANAMS

All within a plain border.

The value in Telugu in two lines within a plain circle. Around this is the value in Tamil. All within a plain border.

 

Official Weight (g)

4.65

Actual Weight (g)

4.42-4.80

Actual Diameter (mm)

16.3-17.8

Composition

Silver

Edge

Grained Right

Axis

Not Fixed

Mintage

988,423

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Obv

Rev

Obverse

Reverse

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

Legend

Stops

F & A

V & F

S

Tamil Letter

Stops

3.61

√ 234.

A

I

 

4+1

 

 

 

 

Yes

Ste, HC, Oswal

 

R

3.62

√ 235.

B

I

 

1+4

 

 

 

 

Yes

Ste, HC, Bombay

 

R

3.63

√ 235c.

B

II

 

1+4

 

 

 

 

No

HC

R

3.64

√ 236.

B

III

 

1+4

 

 

 

Open

No

Ste

 

RR

3.65

√ 237.

B

IV

 

1+4

 

 

 

Retrograde

Yes

HC, Noon, Marudhar

RR

3.65A

√ 237c.

B

V

 

1+4

 

 

 

Retrograde

No

Bombay

RR

3.65C

√ 237e.

B1

I

FANAMS

1+4

 

 

 

Yes

Ste, HC, Noble

RR

3.66

√ 238.

C

II

FANAMS

4+4

 

 

 

 

No

Ste

 

RR

3.67

√ 239.

D

I

 

1+4

 

 

Retrograde

 

Yes

Ste, HC, RJ

S of FANAMS, retrograde. Some coins have no bar on the first A in FANAMS

R

3.67C

√ 239c.

D1

I

FANAMS

1+4

 

 

Retrograde

 

Yes

HC

S of FANAMS, retrograde. Some coins have no bar on the first A in FANAMS

RR

3.68

√ 240.

E

I

 

1+4

 

Wrong

 

 

Yes

Zeno, HC

Ref: Thompson

RR

3.69

√ 241.

F

I

 

1+4

Wrong

 

 

 

Yes

Ste, HC, Noon

 

R

 

Obverse Varieties

Outer Legend

The outer legend may begin at the top left with FIVE at the top or bottom right with FANAMS at the top

Stops in Legend

The stops in the English legend may be composed of single dots (1), or a quartet of dots (4) arranged roughly in the shape of a diamond. These can be mixed on a single coin (e.g. 4+1 means quartet after FIVE and single after FANAMS, 1+4 means single after FIVE and quartet after FANAMS)

F & A in FANAMS

The first two letters of FANAMS may be mal-formed with the F struck over E and a missing or weak cross-bar on the first A

V in FIVE & F in FANAMS

V in FIVE represented by an upside-down A. F in FANAMS represented by an E.

S in FANAMS

The S in the word FANAMS may be retrograde.

 

 

A

B

B1

C

D

D1

E

F

Outer Legend

FIVE

FIVE

FANAMS

FANAMS

FIVE

FANAMS

FIVE

FIVE

Stops in Legend

4+1

1+4

1+4

4+4

1+4

1+4

1+4

1+4

F & A in FANAMS

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

Mal-formed

V in FIVE & F in FANAMS

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

Incorrect

OK

S in FANAMS

OK

OK

OK

OK

Retrograde

Retrograde

OK

OK

 

Reverse Varieties

Last Tamil Letter

The last letter in the Tamil legend may be the normal closed type, or open. This is probably a die or striking error rather than a variety. On one variety the letter is retrograde.

Stops in Tamil legend

There may or may not be stops in the Tamil legend.

 

 

I

II

III

IV

V

Last Tamil Letter

Closed

Closed

Open

Retrograde

Retrograde

Stops in Tamil legend

Yes

No

No

Yes

No

 

A group of coins

Description automatically generated with medium confidence

Described as a mint specimen set (3.65, 3.78, 3.87C)

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Silver, Two Fanams 1807 to 1808

 

(Persian = Do falam = Double fanam)

(Tamil = Irantu panam, Telugu = Renddu rukalu = Two fanams)

The value in Persian with or without a plain circle around. This is surrounded by the value in English:

DOUBLE FANAM

All within a plain border.

The value in Telugu in two lines with or without a plain circle around. Around this is the value in Tamil. All within a plain border.

 

Official Weight (g)

1.85

Actual Weight (g)

1.70-1.87

Actual Diameter (mm)

12.1-13.2

Composition

Silver

Edge

Plain

Axis

Not fixed

Mintage

1,511,087

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Obv

Rev

Obverse

Reverse

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

Circle

Stops

Spelling

Circle

Legend U/S down

Stops

3.70

√ 242.

A

III

Yes

1+1

 

Yes

No

0

Noon, Coin World

RR

3.71

√ 243.

B

I

Yes

1+4

 

Yes

Yes

4+4

Ste, Noon, ClassNG

 

RR

3.72

√ 244.

B

II

Yes

1+4

 

Yes

No

4+4

Ste, HC

R

3.73

√ 245.

B

III

Yes

1+4

 

Yes

No

0

Ste, RJ, Noon, Tody

Occurs with large or small obverse letters. Some examples have no bar on the first A and a weak bar on the second A in FANAM

R

3.74

√ 246.

B

IV

Yes

1+4

 

Yes

No

1+1

Ste

 

RR

3.74A

√ 246c.

B

IVa

Yes

1+4

 

Yes

No

4+1

DNW/RJ

ANS 1988.84.184

RR

3.75

√ 247.

B

V

Yes

1+4

 

No

No

1+4

Ste, RJ, Tody

 

R

3.76

247C.

B

VIII

Yes

1+4

 

No

No

4+1

Tody

RR

3.77

√ 249.

C

III

Yes

1+4

ᴦᴧNᴧM

Yes

No

0

Ste

 

RR

3.78

√ 250.

D

III

Yes

1+4

ᴦANAM

Yes

No

0

Ste, Noon

 

RR

3.78A

250c.

D

IV

Yes

1+4

ᴦANAM

Yes

No

1+1

BM

RR

3.79

√ 251.

E

VI

Yes

0

 

No

No

1+1

Ste, Weir, Noon

R

3.79C

√ 257e.

E1

IV

Yes

1+1

F, N & M wrong

Yes

No

1+1

RJ

 

RR

3.80

252.

F

?

No

0+1

 

-

-

-

 

Recorded from Pridmore No. 164. Probably Rev I-IVa (centre circle)

RR

3.81

√ 253.

G

II

No

1+1

 

Yes

No

4+4

Ste, Noon

 

R

3.82

√ 254.

H

II

No

1+4

 

Yes

No

4+4

Ste, Noon

S

3.83

√ 255.

H

V

No

1+4

 

No

No

1+4

Ste, Noon

Some examples have small obverse letters. See photos

S

3.85

√ 256.

H

VI

No

1+4

 

No

No

1+1

Zeno

RR

3.84

√ 255c.

H

VII

No

1+4

 

No

Muddled

0

Tody

RR

3.86

257.

I

V

No

B.L

 

No

No

1+4

 

Ref: Kaslove. DOUB.LE

RR

3.86A

√ 257c.

J

III

No

0

 

Yes

No

0

RJ

RR

3.86C

√ 257d.

J

VII

No

0

 

No

Muddled

0

RJ

RR

 

Obverse Varieties

Centre Circle

There may or may not be a plain circle surrounding the Persian legend.

Stops in Legend

The stops in the English legend may be composed of single dots (1), or a quartet of dots (4) arranged roughly in the shape of a diamond. (E.g. 1+1 means single after DOUBLE and single after FANAM, 1+4 means single after DOUBLE and quartet after FANAM). Alternatively, there may be no stops at all (0).

F & A's of FANAM

The second bar of F of FANAM is missing. A's of FANAM are upside-down V's.

Second bar of F

The second bar of the F is missing

N & M of FANAM

N retrograde and M upside-down

 

 

A

B

C

D

E

E1

F

G

H

I

J

Centre Circle

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

No

No

No

No

No

Stops in Legend

1+1

1+4

1+4

1+4

0+0

4+4

0+1

1+1

1+4

B.L

0+0

F & A's of FANAM

OK

OK

Incorrect

 

OK

 

?

OK

OK

OK

OK

Second bar of F

OK

OK

 

Missing

OK

 

?

OK

OK

OK

OK

N & M of FANAM

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

Incorrect

?

OK

OK

OK

OK

 

Reverse Varieties

Centre Circle

The Telugu legend may or may not be surrounded by a plain circle.

Legend U/S Down

The Telugu legend may or may not be upside-down relative to the Tamil legend.

Stops in Legend

The stops in the Tamil legend may be composed of single dots (1), or a quartet of dots (4) arranged roughly in the shape of a diamond. Alternatively there may be no stops at all (0).

 

 

I

II

III

IV

IVa

V

Va

VI

VII

VIII

Centre Circle

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

No

No

No

No

No

Legend U/S Down

Yes

No

No

No

No

No

No

No

Muddled

No

Stops in Legend

4+4

4+4

0+0

1+1

4+1

1+4

4+1

1+1

0+0

4+1

 

 

Letter missing from Tamil Legend. Photo from Hemanth Chopra

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Silver, Fanam 1807 to 1808

 

(Tamil = panam, Telugu = ruka = fanam)

A five- or six-pointed star with or without a plain circle around. Crossed branches below. The value in English above.

FANAM

All within a plain border.

A five- or six-pointed star or five- or six-petal flower with or without a plain circle around. This is surrounded by the value in Tamil and Telugu. All within a plain rim.

 

Official Weight (g)

0.92

Actual Weight (g)

0.73-0.95

Actual Diameter (mm)

9.5-10.6

Composition

Silver

Edge

Plain

Axis

Not Fixed

Mintage

386,352

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Obv

Rev

Obverse

Reverse

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

Circle

Branches

Star

Spelling

Circle

Stops

Device

3.87

√ 258.

A

I

Yes

Yes

5 pts

Yes

1+1

Star, 5 points

RJ

RR

3.87C

√ 258c.

A

III

Yes

Yes

5 pts

 

Yes

4+4

Star, 5 points

Noon, HC

RR

3.88

√ 259.

B

III

Yes

No

6 pts Square ends

 

Yes

4+4

Star, 5 points

Vinitkumar Pujara, HC

 

RR

3.88C

√ 260c.

B

VI

Yes

No

6 pts Square ends

 

No

4+1

Star, 5 points

RJ

 

RR

3.89

√ 260.

C

I

No

Yes

5 pts

 

Yes

1+1

Star, 5 points

Ste, HC, Tody, Noon

The stars on the reverse come in different shapes. See photos.

S

3.90

√ 261.

C

II

No

Yes

5 pts

 

Yes

1+1

Flower, 5 petals

Ste, HC, Marudhar, Tody

The flowers on the reverse come in different shapes. See photos.

R

3.91

√ 261c.

C

III

No

Yes

5 pts

 

Yes

4+4

Star, 5 points

Bald

RR

3.92

√ 261e.

C

VI

No

Yes

5 pts

 

No

4+1

Star, 5 points

Ste, HC

R

3.93

√ 262.

D

III

No

No

6 pts

 

Yes

4+4

Star, 5 points

Ste, RJ

 

R

3.94

√ 262c.

D

V

No

No

6 pts

 

Yes

4+4

Star 6 points

Murali Thantry, SA

RR

3.95

√ 263.

E

I

No

Yes

5 pts

bANAM

Yes

1+1

Star, 5 points

Ste, Tody

Very low silver content on one example (by XRF) see photos. May be contemporary counterfeit.

RR

3.96

√ 264.

F

IV

No

Yes

Absent

 

Yes

4+4

Flower, 6 petals

Ste

Ref: Wiggins

RR

3.97

√ 264c.

G

I

No

Yes

5 pts

EANAW

Yes

1+1

Star, 5 points

HC

RR

3.97C

√ 264d.

H

I

No

Yes

5 pts

bANAM (retro N)

Yes

1+1

Star, 5 points

RJ

Thanks to Hemanth Chopra who noticed the retro N

RR

3.97E

√ 264e.

J

I

No

Yes with stops

5 pts

 

Yes

1+1

Star, 5 points

HC, RJ

Obverse stops 1+1 linked to branches

RR

 

Obverse Varieties

Centre Circle

There may or may not be a plain circle surrounding the star.

Branches

There may or may not be crossed branches below the star. Some have berries on the end, although there is some debate about whether these are berries or stops in the legend.

Star

The central star may have 5 or 6 points or may be absent. The shape of the star varies

Spelling of FANAM

FANAM may be mis-spelt.

 

 

A

B

C

D

E

F

G

H

J

Centre Circle

Yes

Yes

No

No

No

No

No

No

No

Branches

Yes

No

Yes

No

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes with stops/berries

Star

5 Points

6 Points

5 Points

6 Points

5 points

Absent

5 points

5 points

5 Points

Spelling of FANAM

OK

OK

OK

OK

bANAM

OK

EANAW

bANAM (retroN)

OK

 

Reverse Varieties

Centre Circle

There may or may not be a circle around the star.

Stops in Legend

The stops in the legend may be composed of single dots (1), two quartets of dots (4) each arranged roughly in the shape of a diamond, or a quartet plus a single dot.

Central Device

There is a 5- or 6-point star or 5 or 6 petal flower in the centre of the reverse design. The shapes of the star and flower vary. Sometimes the centre device is intermediate between star and flower, but if the rays/petals do not touch at the centre, the device is considered to be a flower.

 

 

I

II

III

IV

V

VI

Centre Circle

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

No

Stops in Legend

1+1

1+1

4+4

4+4

4+4

4+1

Central Device

Star, 5 points

Flower, 5 petals

Star, 5 points

Flower, 6 petals

Star, 6 points

Star, 5 points

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Silver, Half Pagoda 1808 to 1812

 

Madras 89 1808 Half Pagoda E VIII Obv

(Persian = nim hun phuli = half a flower, or star, pagoda)

Madras 90 1808 Half Pagoda E VII IRev

(Tamil = Arai pu vara kun. Telugu = Ara pu varahani = half a flower, or star, pagoda)

Nine tiered Gopuram of a temple, standing on stony ground. Nine stars on each side. All this surrounded by a buckled garter. On the garter is the value in English:

HALF PAGODA

and Persian. All within a beaded border.

Figure of Vishnu holding a sword in his left hand. Dotted symbols on each side with crescents and lotus flowers below. All surrounded by three circles of beads. All this within a ribbon, the ends of which are separated by a star. On the ribbon is the value in Tamil and Telugu. All within a beaded border.

 

Official Weight (g)

21.17

Actual Weight (g)

20.81-21.43

Actual Diameter (mm)

34.9-38.3

Composition

Silver

Edge

Grained Right

Axis

↑↑

Mintage

1,999,601

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Obv

Rev

Obverse

Reverse

Prov’nce

Comments

Rarity

Stars

Stops

Gopuram

Buckle

Shading

Spelling

Circles

Crosses

Stop

Beads

Below

Telugu

Letter

Tails

Sword

3.98A

√ 265e.

A

II

9+9

End

O/D

Oval

No

 

3

14/12

Yes

0

 

 

Oswal

 

R

3.98

√ 265c.

A

VIII

9+9

End

O/D

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

2

 

 

Noon

Specimen strike

R

3.99

√ 265.

A

IX

9+9

End

O/D

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

2

 

4

 

Ste,

Both reverse crosses re-engraved

RR

3.99C

√ 265b.

A

XI

9+9

End

O/D

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

No

1

 

 

Subasta

 

R

3.101

√ 265g.

A

XII

9+9

End

O/D

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

No

2

 

 

Ste, Coins Art, RJ

 

R

3.100

√ 266.

A

XIII

9+9

End

O/D

Oval

No

 

3

14/16

Yes

2

 

 

 

Ste, Noon

 

R

3.102

267a.

C

II

9+9

End

G/O

Oval

No

 

3

14/12

Yes

0

 

 

 

 

Ref: Kaslove

R

3.104

√ 268a.

C

VII

9+9

End

G/O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

0

 

 

 

RJ

R

3.105

√ 269.

C

VIII

9+9

End

G/O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

2

 

 

 

Bald, Noon

R

3.105C

√ 269c

C

XII

9+9

End

G/O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

No

2

 

 

 

DNW

 

R

3.106

√ 270.

D

VII

9+9

End

G/O

Square

Yes

 

3

16/14

Yes

0

 

 

 

Ste

 

RR

3.106C

√ 270c.

E

II

9+9

End

O

Oval

No

 

3

14/12

Yes

0

 

 

 

eBay

 

R

3.106E

√ 270e.

E

VI

9+9

End

O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

2 above

 

 

 

RJ, Bald

 

R

3.107

271.

E

VII

9+9

End

O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

0

 

 

 

Ref: Wiggins

R

3.108

√ 272.

E

VIII

9+9

End

O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

2

 

 

 

Ste, HC, Sov, Noon, Marudhar

 

R

3.109

√ 272b.

E

VIII

9+9

End

OD

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

2

 

 

 

Her, Goldberg

O over D. See photos.

RR

3.110

√ 272b3.

E

IX

9+9

End

O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

2

 

4

 

RJ

Reverse right cross re-engraved

RR

3.114

√ 274.

E

X

9+9

End

O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

No

0

Upside-down

 

 

Stacks, Noon

See photos for dots on obv.

RR

3.113

√ 273.

E

XI

9+9

End

O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

No

1

 

 

 

Her

R

3.111

√ 272c.

E

XII

9+9

End

O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

No

2

 

 

 

Ste, Her

 

R

3.114C

√ 274b.

E

XIIa

9+9

End

O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

No

2

 

None

SA, Bald

No Sword. Looks like 3 beads below Vishnu but the lowest is part of the inner circle.

RR

3.115

√ 274c.

G

II

9+9

End

O

Oval

Yes

 

3

14/12

Yes

0

 

 

HC

R

3.115A

√ 274a.

G

III

9+9

End

O

Oval

Yes

 

3

14/14

Yes

0

 

 

Her

R

3.116

√ 275.

G

IV

9+9

End

O

Oval

Yes

 

3

11/13

Yes

0

 

 

 

Ste

No bead above Vishnu

R

3.117

√ 275c.

G

VII

9+9

End

O

Oval

Yes

 

3

16/14

Yes

0

 

 

 

Ste

R

3.118

√ 275e.

H

III

9+9

End

G

Oval

No

 

3

14/14

Yes

0

 

 

 

HC

R

3.119

√ 276.

H

XI

9+9

End

G

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

No

1

 

 

 

Ste, Her

R

3.120

√ 277.

I

VIII

9+9

End

D

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

2

 

 

 

RJ, Bald

R

3.121

√ 277c.

I

XI

9+9

End

D

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

No

1

 

 

 

Bald, Noon, SA

R

3.121C

√ 277b.

I

XIII

9+9

End

D

Oval

No

 

3

14/16

Yes

2

 

 

 

Her

R

3.122

√ 277d.

J

II

9+9

C+E

G/O

Oval

No

 

3

14/12

Yes

0

 

 

 

HC. Marudhar

Trace of a second sword in right hand on one

R

3.123

√ 277e.

J

VI

9+9

C+E

G/O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

2 above

 

 

 

Marudhar

R

3.123A

√ 277g.

J

VII

9+9

C+E

G/O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

0

 

 

 

Her

R

3.124

√ 278.

J

VIII

9+9

C+E

G/O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

2

 

 

 

Ste, Noon

R

3.125

279.

J

XII

9+9

C+E

G/O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

No

2

 

 

 

 

Ref: Withers

R

3.126

√ 280.

K

II

9+9

C+E

G/O

Oval

Yes

 

3

14/12

Yes

0

 

eBay, Noon, Bald

R

3.126C

√ 280c.

K

VIII

9+9

C+E

G/O

Oval

Yes

 

3

16/14

Yes

2

 

Noon

R

3.127

√ 281.

L

II

9+9

C+E

G

Oval

No

 

3

14/12

Yes

0

 

 

 

Ste, RJ

 

R

3.127C

√ 281b.

L

IIIa

9+9

C+E

G

Oval

No

 

3

13/11

Yes

0

 

 

 

RJ

 

R

3.128

√ 281c.

L

V

9+9

C+E

G

Oval

No

 

3

15/12

Yes

0

 

 

 

Ste

R

3.129

√ 282.

L

VII

9+9

C+E

G

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

0

 

 

 

Ste

 

R

3.130

√ 283.

L

VIII

9+9

C+E

G

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

2

 

 

 

Ste

Kaslove has one without a centre stop (on rev?)

R

3.131

√ 284.

L

XI

9+9

C+E

G

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

No

1

 

 

 

Ste

 

R

3.131C

√ 284b.

L1

II

9+9

C+E

G

Oval

Yes

 

3

14/12

Yes

0

 

 

 

SA

 

R

3.132

√ 284b3.

M

II

9+9

C+E

O

Oval

No

 

3

14/12

Yes

0

 

 

 

Her

 

R

3.133

284c.

M

IV

9+9

C+E

O

Oval

No

 

3

11/13

Yes

0

 

 

 

 

Reverse certainly has 13/11 beads but not certain it is IV Ref: Kaslove

R

3.134

√ 285.

M

VII

9+9

C+E

O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

0

 

 

 

Ste, Oswal

 

R

3.135

√ 286.

M

VIII

9+9

C+E

O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

2

 

 

 

Ste, RJ

 

R

3.136

√ 287.

M

XII

9+9

C+E

O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

No

2

 

 

 

Ste

 

R

3.136C

√ 287c.

M

XIIc

9+9

C+E

O

Oval

No

 

3

16/15

Yes

1

 

 

 

RJ

R

3.136D

√ 287d.

M1

II

9+9

C+E

O

Oval

Yes

 

3

14/12

Yes

0

 

 

 

Noon, Her

R

3.136E

√ 287e.

M1

VI

9+9

C+E

O

Oval

Yes

 

3

16/14

Yes

2 above

 

 

 

RJ

Shading in left side of buckle

R

3.136G

√ 287g.

M2

VIII

9+9

C+E

OD

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

2

 

 

 

RJ

R

3.137

√ 288.

N

II

9+9

L&F+E

O

Oval

No

 

3

14/12

Yes

0

 

 

 

Bald

R

3.138

√ 288c.

O

IV

9+9

None

O

Oval

No

 

3

11/13

Yes

0

 

 

 

RJ

No bead above Vishnu

R

3.139

√ 289.

O

VI

9+9

None

O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

2 above

 

 

 

Ste, Noon

 

R

3.139C

√ 289b.

O

VIII

9+9

None

O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

2

 

 

 

RJ

 

R

3.140

√ 289c.

O

XI

9+9

None

O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

No

1

 

 

 

RJ

R

3.140C

√ 289d.

O1

II?

9+9

None?

O

Oval

Yes

 

3

14/12

Yes

0?

 

 

 

Noble

Lack of obverse centre stop and beads below Vishnu are not clear

R

3.141

289a.

P

VI

9+9

None

G

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

2 above

 

 

 

 

Ref: Kaslove

R

3.142

√ 290.

P

IX

9+9

None

G

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

0

 

 

 

Ste

 

R

3.143

291.

P

VIII

9+9

None

G

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

Yes

2

 

 

 

 

Ref: Kaslove

R

3.143C

√ 291e.

Q

IIa

9+9

None

G

Oval

No

 

3

14/12

Yes

0

 

4

 

Her

Left cross re-engraved

RR

3.143E

√ 291g.

Q

IIIa

9+9

None

G

Oval

No

 

3

13/11

Yes

0

 

 

 

Ponterio

RR

3.144

√ 292.

Q

X

9+9

None

G/O

Oval

No

 

3

16/14

No

0

Upside-down

 

 

Ste, RJ, Noon

R

3.144C

√ 292c.

Q1

VII

9+9

None

G/O

Square

Yes

 

3

16/14

Yes

0

 

 

Kaslove

R

3.145

√ 293.

R

VIII

9+9

None

D

Oval

No

PGODA

3

16/14

Yes

2

 

 

 

Ste, HC, Tody, Bald

 

RRR

3.146

√ 294.

S

I

22+24

C+E

D

Square

No

 

5

14/11

Yes

1

 

 

 

Noble, SNC, Noon. Anantha Raghuraman

5 circles of beads

RRR

Rarity of the minor varieties is unknown. Some may be very rare.

Several coins have been observed with obverses F and Q with an identical reverse X die. This obviously provides a die-link between obverses F and Q (information from H. Kaslove). Other die links exist such as obverses G and O with an identical reverse IV die, and obverses E, M1 and O with a reverse VI die. If enough examples are collected, there may be an opportunity in the future to undertake a more serious study of die-linking. Hopefully, this catalogue is providing a starting point.

 

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Q1/VII overstruck on first type (1807-1808). From H Kaslove

 

 

Obverse Varieties

Number of stars

There are usually 9 stars on each side of the gopuram. A rare variety has 22+24 stars.

Stops in Legend

The English legend may contain no stops, an end stop alone, or a centre stop between the two words plus an end stop (C+E). In one example the centre stop is between the L & F of HALF (L&F+E).

Gopuram

The centre line of the gopuram may point directly at the letter G, between the letters G and O, directly at the letter O, or between the letters O and D. This can best be ascertained by holding a ruler up the central spine of the gopuram. If the ruler touches a letter or the edge of a letter, then the gopuram is considered to point to that letter.

Buckle Shape

The buckle may be oval or square. Some square buckles have rounded corners

Shading in buckle

The shading may or may not extend into the buckle.

Spelling of PAGODA

PAGODA spelt PGODA

The triad of dots in the Persian legend may be placed to the right or left of the centre letter (n). See obverse varieties

 

 

A

C

D

E

G

H

I

Number of stars

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

Stops in Legend

End

End

End

End

End

End

End

Gopuram

O/D

G/O

G/O

O

O

G

D

Buckle Shape

Oval

Oval

Square

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Shading in buckle

No

No

Yes

No

Yes

No

No

Spelling of PAGODA

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

 

 

J

K

L

L1

M

M1

M2

Number of stars

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

Stops in Legend

C+E

C+E

C+E

C+E

C+E

C+E

C+E

Gopuram

G/O

G/O

G

G

O

O

OD

Buckle Shape

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Shading in buckle

No

Yes

No

Yes

No

Yes

No

Spelling of PAGODA

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

 

 

N

O

O1

P

Q

Q1

R

S

Number of stars

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

22+24

Stops in Legend

L&F+E

None

None?

None

None

None

None

C+E

Gopuram

O

O

O

G

G/O

G/O

D

D

Buckle Shape

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Square

Oval

Square

Shading in buckle

No

No

Yes

No

No

Yes

No

No

Spelling of PAGODA

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

PGODA

OK

Because it is often difficult to determine the size of the obverse letters, this parameter has been eliminated and obverses A/B and E/F combined

 

Reverse Varieties

Circles of Beads

There are usually three circles of beads. On rare varieties there may be 5 circles.

Top Left Cross

To the left of Vishnu is an arrangement of dots topped by a cross shape, representing one of his wives. The number of dots that form this figure varies.

Top Right Cross

To the right of Vishnu is an arrangement of dots topped by a cross shape, representing one of his wives. The number of dots that form this figure varies.

Stop in Legend

There may or may not be a stop between the Tamil and Telugu legends.

Beads below Vishnu

There are varying numbers of beads below Vishnu. These beads are usually within the stalk, but sometimes they may be above the stalk. Beads from the inner circle often extend into the stalk. Only those beads that are definitely not part of the circles of beads count as beads below Vishnu.

Rotation of first letter of Telugu Legend

The first letter of the Telugu legend may be upside-down.

Tails to Top Cross

The crosses next to Vishnu usually have two tails, but sometimes the left, right or both tails may be re-engraved

Sword

Vishnu usually has his sword in the left Hand (LH) but very rarely there is no sword.

 

 

I

II

IIa

III

IIIa

IV

V

VI

VII

Circles of Beads

5

3

3

3

3

3

3

3

3

Top Left Cross

14

14

14

14

13

11

15

16

16

Top Right Cross

11

12

12

14

11

13

12

14

14

Stop in Legend

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Beads below Vishnu

1

0

0

0

0

0

0

2 above stalk

0

Rotation of first letter of Telugu Legend

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

Tails to Top Cross

Two

Two

Four

Two

Two

Two

Two

Two

Two

Sword

LH

LH

LH

LH

LH

LH

LH

LH

LH

 

 

VIII

IX

X

XI

XII

XIIa

XIIc

XIII

Circles of Beads

3

3

3

3

3

3

3

3

Top Left Cross

16

16

16

16

16

16

16

14

Top Right Cross

14

14

14

14

14

14

15

16

Stop in Legend

Yes

Yes

No

No

No

No

Yes

Yes

Beads below Vishnu

2

2

0

1

2

2

1

2

Rotation of first letter of Telugu Legend

OK

OK

Upside-down

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

Tails to Top Cross

Two

Four

Two

Two

Two

Two

Two

Two

Sword

LH

LH

LH

LH

LH

None

LH

LH

 

Shape, circle

Description automatically generated

Photo from Noonans, 8th Feb ’23 (Puddester), lot 108. Described as Mint Specimen set (3.98, 3.200.3.235, 3.254, 3.271)

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Silver, Quarter Pagoda 1808 to 1812

 

(Persian = Pau hun phuli = quarter of a flower, or star, pagoda)

(Tamil = Kal vara kun, Telugu = Kal varahani = quarter of a pagoda)

Seven tiered Gopuram of a temple, standing on stony ground. Between seven and nine stars on each side. All this surrounded by a buckled garter. On the garter is the value in English:

QUARTER PAGODA

and Persian. All within a beaded border.

Figure of Vishnu usually holding a sword in his left hand. Dotted symbols on each side with crescents and lotus flowers below. All surrounded by two circles of beads. All this within a ribbon, the ends separated by a star. On the ribbon is the value in Tamil and Telugu. All within a beaded border.

 

Official Weight (g)

10.58

Actual Weight (g)

10.26-10.71

Actual Diameter (mm)

25.6-28.3

Composition

Silver

Edge

Grained Right

Mintage

7,091,587

Axis

↑↑

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Obv

Rev

Obverse

Reverse

Proven’

Comments

Rarity

Buckle

Stars

Stops

Shading

Tongue

QUARTER/ PAGODA

Gopuram

Beads in Cross

Bead Below

Sword

Stop

Bead Above

Tamil

3.157

√ 341.

A

I

(V)

Square

7+7

End

No

-

 

G

13/11

2

 

 

 

 

Bald

7 Stars. Ref: Kaslove. Kaslove believes his specimen to be reverse V but the one from the Baldwin’s sale is reverse I. There may be more than one reverse for this variety

RRR

3.158

√ 295.

B

I

Square

8+8

None

No

-

 

G,O

13/11

2

 

 

 

 

Ste, Noble, RJ

8 Stars

RR

3.161

√ 296c.

C

I

Square

9+9

End

No

-

 

A,AG

13/11

2

 

 

 

 

RJ, St James

R

3.162

√ 296e.

C

II

Square

9+9

End

No

-

 

A

13/11

2

None

 

 

 

SA

RR

3.159

√ 296.

C

III

Square

9+9

End

No

-

 

A, AG

13/11

2

 

No

 

 

Ste, Noon

 

R

3.160

√ 296a.

C

VI

Square

9+9

End

No

-

 

A

13/11

0

 

 

 

 

RJ, Spink

Ref: Kaslove

R

3.161

See above. After 3.158

3.162

See above.

3.163

√ 296g.

C

VII

Square

9+9

End

No

-

 

AG

13/11

0

None

 

 

 

Tody

RR

3.163A

√ 296i.

C

VIII

Square

9+9

End

No

-

 

A

13/11

0

 

No

 

RJ, Noon

R

3.164

297.

C

XVI

Square

9+9

End

No

-

 

 

11/9

0

 

 

No

 

 

Ref: seen at Baldwin’s

R

3.164C

√ 297c.

C1

VIII

Square

9+9

None

No

-

 

A

13/11

0

 

 

No

 

RJ

No crossbars on As

R

3.165

√ 298.

D

XVI

Oval

9+8

None

No

Yes

 

A

11/9

0

 

 

No

 

Ste

9+8 Stars.

RR

3.165C

√ 298c.

D1

IIIa

Oval

9+8

C+E

(PA.G)

No

Yes

 

A

14/11

1

 

 

No

 

RJ

9+8 stars.

RR

3.166

√ 299.

E

VI

Oval

9+9

None

Yes

Yes

 

13/11

0

 

 

 

 

Ste, RJ

 

R

3.167

√ 300.

E

VIII

Oval

9+9

None

Yes

Yes

 

G, GO

13/11

0

 

 

No

 

Ste, Noon

 

R

3.167A

√ 299c.

E

IX

Oval

9+9

None

Yes

Yes

 

G

12/11

0

 

No

 

 

Ste, RJ

 

R

3.167C

√ 300c.

E

XIII

Oval

9+9

None

Yes

Yes

 

A

9/11

0

 

 

No

 

Noble

 

R

3.168

√ 301.

E

XIV

Oval

9+9

None

Yes

Yes

 

AG, G

11/9

0

 

 

 

 

Ste, CBG.FR

 

R

3.169

√ 302.

E

XVI

Oval

9+9

None

Yes

Yes

 

PA, A, AG, G

11/9

0

 

 

No

 

Ste, Bombay, Noon, Noble

Can occur with large As and O particularly noticeable in PAGODA (Ref: Thompson)

S

3.170

√ 303.

E

XVII

Oval

9+9

None

Yes

Yes

 

G

L:9/11

R:8/9

0

 

 

No

 

Ste

Reverse crosses of dots incorporated into circles of beads

R

3.171

√ 304.

E

XIX

Oval

9+9

None

Yes

Yes

 

G, GO

11/9

0

RH

 

No

 

Ste, Marudhar

At least 3 different reverse dies. See photos

RR

3.171C

√ 304b.

F

VIII

Oval

9+9

None

Yes

No

 

AG

13/11

0

 

No

 

Marudhar

R

3.172

√ 304c.

F

XVI

Oval

9+9

None

Yes

No

 

A, AG

11/9

0

 

No

 

Tody, ClassNG

R

3.173

√ 305.

F

XVIII

Oval

9+9

None

Yes

No

 

AG

11/9

0

 

No

No

 

Ste

 

R

3.173C

√ 305b.

F

XX

Oval

9+9

None

Yes

No

 

AG

11/9

0

None

 

Noon

 

RR

3.176

√ 306.

G

VIII

Oval

9+9

None

No

Yes

 

PA, A

13/11

0

 

 

No

 

Ste, RJ

 

R

3.177

√ 307.

G

IX

Oval

9+9

None

No

Yes

 

PA

12/11

0

 

No

 

 

Ste, RJ

 

R

3.177C

√ 307c.

G

Xa

Oval

9+9

None

No

Yes

 

PA

13/10

0

 

No

 

Noon

 

R

3.177D

√ 307e.

G

Xb

Oval

9+9

None

No

Yes

 

P

13/10

0

 

No

 

Noon

 

R

3.178

√ 308.

G

XVI

Oval

9+9

None

No

Yes

 

PA, GO

11/9

0

 

 

No

 

Ste, RJ

 

R

3.179

308a.

H

XVI

Oval

9+9

None

No

No

 

 

11/9

0

 

 

No

 

 

Ref: Kaslove

R

3.180C

√ 309c.

J

XIV

Oval

9+9

Centre

Yes

Yes

AG

11/9

0

 

 

 

RJ

R

3.181

√ 310.

J

XVI

Oval

9+9

Centre

Yes

Yes

 

A

11/9

0

 

 

No

 

Ste, Noble

 

R

3.181B

√ 310b.

J1

XIVa

Oval

9+9

Centre

Yes

No

 

A

11/9

0

 

 

 

RJ

Lotus flowers missing right of Vishnu

R

3.181C

√ 310c.

J1

XVI

Oval

9+9

Centre

Yes

No

 

AG

11/9

0

 

No

 

Bald

 

R

3.182

√ 311.

K

VI

Oval

9+9

Centre

No

Yes

 

A

13/11

0

 

 

 

 

Ste

 

R

3.182C

√ 312.

L

VI

Oval

9+9

End

Yes

Yes

 

A

13/11

0

 

 

 

 

Ste

R

3.183

√ 313.

L

VIII

Oval

9+9

End

Yes

Yes

 

A, G, O

13/11

0

 

 

No

 

Ste, ICE, Oswal, RJ

 

S

3.184

√ 314.

L

X

Oval

9+9

End

Yes

Yes

 

AG

13/11

0

 

No

No

 

Ste, CNG

 

R

3.185

√ 315.

L

XI

Oval

9+9

End

Yes

Yes

 

AG

11/10

0

 

 

 

 

Ste, Tody

 

R

3.186

√ 316.

L

XII

Oval

9+9

End

Yes

Yes

 

G

11/11

0

 

 

No

 

Ste

Centre stop might be present.

R

3.187

√ 317.

L

XIV

Oval

9+9

End

Yes

Yes

 

A, AG, G

11/9

0

 

 

 

 

Ste, Leu, Stacks

 

S

3.188

√ 317c.

L

XV

Oval

9+9

End

Yes

Yes

 

A

11/9

0

 

 

No

Missing

HC

RR

3.188C

√ 317d.

L

XVI

Oval

9+9

End

Yes

Yes

 

A, AG, G

11/9

0

 

 

No

 

DNW, Noon, Marudhar

 

R

3.188E

√ 317g.

L

XVIIIa

Oval

9+9

End

Yes

Yes

 

A

11/9

0

 

 

Yes

 

Spink

 

R

3.189

√ 317e.

M

VI

Oval

9+9

End

Yes

Two

 

A

13/11

0

 

 

 

 

SA

R

3.189C

√ 317f.

M

Xa

Oval

9+9

End

Yes

Two

 

A

13/10

0

 

 

No

 

eBay

R

3.189E

√ 317i.

M1

XVI

Oval

9+9

End

No

Two

 

AG

11/9

0

 

 

No

 

Marudhar

R

3.190

√ 318.

N

XVI

Oval

9+9

End

Yes

No

 

A

11/9

0

 

 

No

 

Ste, Tody, RJ

 

S

3.190C

√ 318c.

N

XIX

Oval

9+9

End

Yes

No

 

A

11/9

0

RH

 

No

 

Ashrith Setty

 

RR

3.192

√ 319c.

O

VI

Oval

9+9

End

No

Yes

 

A, G

13/11

0

 

 

 

 

Ste, Bombay, Noon, RJ

 

S

3.193

√ 320.

O

VIII

Oval

9+9

End

No

Yes

 

PA

13/11

0

 

 

No

 

Ste

 

S

3.193A

√ 320a.

O

VIII

Oval

9+9

End

No

Yes

 

A

13/11

0

 

 

No

 

Noon

Oval over square buckle

RR

3.193C

√ 320b

O

XIV

Oval

9+9

End

No

Yes

 

A

11/9

0

 

 

 

 

DNW, Noon

 

R

3.194

√ 320c.

O

XVI

Oval

9+9

End

No

Yes

 

G

11/9

0

 

 

No

 

Tody

 

R

3.195

√ 321.

P

VI

Oval

9+9

C+E

Yes

Yes

 

A

13/11

0

 

 

 

 

Ste

 

R

3.196

√ 322.

P

VIII

Oval

9+9

C+E

Yes

Yes

 

G

13/11

0

 

 

No

 

Ste

 

R

3.197

√ 322c.

P

XI

Oval

9+9

C+E

Yes

Yes

 

AG

11/10

0

 

 

 

 

RJ

 

R

3.198

√ 323.

P

XIII

Oval

9+9

C+E

Yes

Yes

 

A

9/11

0

 

 

No

 

Ste

 

R

3.199

√ 324.

P

XIV

Oval

9+9

C+E

Yes

Yes

 

A, G

11/9

0

 

 

 

 

Ste, HC, Noon

 

S

3.200

√ 325.

P

XVI

Oval

9+9

C+E

Yes

Yes

 

A, AG, G, GO

11/9

0

 

 

No

 

Ste, RJ, Noon

 

S

3.201

√ 326.

P

XVIII

Oval

9+9

C+E

Yes

Yes

 

G

11/9

0

 

No

No

 

Ste

 

R

3.201A

√ 326c.

P

XIX

Oval

9+9

C+E

Yes

Yes

 

AG

11/9

0

RH

No

 

RJ

 

RR

3.202

√ 327.

P

XX

Oval

9+9

C+E

Yes

Yes

 

A, G

11/9

0

None

 

 

 

Ste, SA

RR

3.202C

√ 327c.

Q

VI

Oval

9+9

C+E

Yes

No

 

AG

13/11

0

 

 

 

RJ

R

3.202E

√ 327e.

Q

XIII

Oval

9+9

C+E

Yes

No

 

A

9/11

0

 

No

 

Noble

R

RR

3.203

√ 328.

Q

XIV

Oval

9+9

C+E

Yes

No

 

A

11/9

0

 

 

 

 

Noble

R

3.204

√ 329.

Q

XVI

Oval

9+9

C+E

Yes

No

 

A, AG, G

11/9

0

 

 

No

 

Ste, Sov, RJ

 

R

3.205

330.

R

IV

Oval

9+9

C+E

No

No

 

 

13/11

1

 

 

 

 

 

Ref: Wiggins

R

3.206

√ 331.

R

XIII

Oval

9+9

C+E

No

No

 

A

9/11

0

 

 

No

 

Ste

 

R

3.207

332.

S

I

Oval

9+9

C+E

No

Yes

 

 

13/11

2

 

 

 

 

 

Ref: Wiggins

R

3.208

√ 333.

S

VI

Oval

9+9

C+E

No

Yes

 

P, A

13/11

0

 

 

 

 

Ste, RJ, Noon

Beads in left cross sometimes re-engraved. One seen with a plain edge

S

3.210

√ 334.

S

VIII

Oval

9+9

C+E

No

Yes

 

P

13/11

0

 

 

No

 

Ste

R

3.210A

√ 334b.

S

Xa

Oval

9+9

C+E

No

Yes

 

P

13/10

0

 

 

No

 

RJ

R

3.210C

√ 334c.

S

XIIIa

Oval

9+9

C+E

No

Yes

 

A

12/9

0

 

 

No

 

RJ

R

3.211

336.

S

XIV

Oval

9+9

C+E

No

Yes

 

 

11/9

0

 

 

 

 

 

Ref: Wiggins

R

3.212

√ 337.

S

XVI

Oval

9+9

C+E

No

Yes

 

A

11/9

0

 

 

No

 

RJ

Exists with first R over O. See photos

R

3.212A

√ 337c.

S

XVI

Oval

9+9

C+E

No

Yes

 

AG

11/9

0

 

 

No

 

Marudhar

Most of the garter at bottom of obverse is missing

RR

3.213

√ 338.

S

XIX

Oval

9+9

C+E

No

Yes

 

G

11/9

0

RH

 

No

 

Ste

 

RR

3.214

√ 339.

T

XVI

Oval

9+9

C+E

No

Yes

PAPAGODA

AP

11/9

0

 

 

No

 

Ste, Tody

 

RRR

3.215

√ 339c.

U

XVI

Oval

9+9

End

No

Yes

PAGOD

G

11/9

0

 

 

No

 

Vikram Coins, RJ

RRR

3.216

√ 340.

V

XVI

Oval

9+9

C+E

Yes

Yes

QUARTE

A, GO

11/9

0

 

 

No

 

Noon, HC, RJ

See photos for one with a centre stop on the E

RR

3.216C

√ 340b.

W

IVa

Square

10+10

None

No

-

G

13/11

0

 

 

No

 

RJ

No star on reverse

RRR

3.216E

√ 340e.

W

VI

Square

10+10

None

No

-

 

G

13/11

0

 

 

Yes

 

M&E

 

RRR

3.216G

√ 340c.

W

XVI

Square

10+10

None

No

-

 

G

11/9

0

 

 

No

 

DNW

 

RRR

Rarity of the minor varieties is unknown. Some may be very rare

 

Obverse Varieties

The letter the gopuram points to varies, as on the half pagoda. The letter can be determined by holding a ruler up the central spine of the gopuram. If the ruler touches a letter, including the serif or edge of the letter, then the gopuram is considered to point to that letter. The letters are shown in the listings above, but this is far from complete.

Buckle Shape

The buckle may be square or oval.

Number of stars

The number of stars on each side of the gopuram can vary.

Stops in Legend

The English legend may contain no stops, a centre stop alone, an end stop alone, or a centre stop plus an end stop (C+E).

Shading in buckle

The shading may or may not extend into the buckle.

Cross tongue

The buckle may or may not have a cross-tongue. If any part of the cross-tongue is visible, it is considered to have a cross-tongue.

Spelling of QUARTER PAGODA

QUARTER may be mis-spelt QUARTE. PAGODA may be mis-spelt PAPAGODA or PAGOD.

 

 

A

B

C

C1

D

D1

E

F

G

Buckle Shape

Square

Square

Square

Square

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Number of stars

7+7

8+8

9+9

9+9

9+8

9+8

9+9

9+9

9+9

Stops in Legend

End

None

End

None

None

C+E (PA.G)

None

None

None

Shading in buckle

No

No

No

No

No

No

Yes

Yes

No

Cross tongue

-

-

-

-

Yes

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

Spelling of QUARTER

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Spelling of PAGODA

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

 

 

H

J

J1

K

L

M

M1

N

Buckle Shape

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Number of stars

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

Stops in Legend

None

Centre

Centre

Centre

End

End

End

End

Shading in buckle

No

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

Cross tongue

No

Yes

No

Yes

Yes

Two

Two

No

Spelling of QUARTER

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Spelling of PAGODA

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

 

 

O

P

Q

R

S

T

U

V

W

Buckle Shape

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Oval

Square

Number of stars

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

9+9

10+10

Stops in Legend

End

C+E

C+E

C+E

C+E

C+E

End

C+E

None

Shading in buckle

No

Yes

Yes

No

No

No

No

Yes

No

Cross tongue

Yes

Yes

No

No

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

-

Spelling of QUARTER

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

QUARTE

Correct

Spelling of PAGODA

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

PAPAGODA

PAGOD.

Correct

Correct

 

Reverse Varieties

The outer circle of beads may be continuous or interrupted below Vishnu with reverses VI, VIII, XIV and XVI occurring with both. This has not been used as a distinguishing feature (ie separate reverses)

Top Left Cross

To the left of Vishnu is an arrangement of dots topped by a cross shape, representing one of his wives. The number of dots that form this figure varies. Very rarely, one of the beads may be incorporated into the inner circle of beads. The number of beads in the cross is then expressed as, e.g. 9/11.

Top Right Cross

To the right of Vishnu is an arrangement of dots topped by a cross shape, representing one of his wives. The number of dots that form this figure varies. Very rarely, two of the beads may be incorporated into the inner circle of beads. The number of beads in the cross is then expressed as, e.g. 8/9.

Bead below Vishnu

There may be zero, one or two beads below Vishnu's feet within the stalk of the lotus flower. These beads are separate from those that form part of the circles of beads.

Vishnu's Sword

The facing figure of Vishnu usually holds a sword in his left hand, but rarer examples exist with the sword in his right hand, or no sword at all.

Stop in Legend

There may or may not be a stop between the Tamil and Telugu legends.

Bead above Vishnu

There is sometimes a single bead above Vishnu's head. This bead is sometimes incorporated into the inner ring of beads. If it is clearly distinct, it is considered to have a bead above, but if there is doubt, then NO bead is considered to be present

Tamil

The third letter from the bottom of the Tamil legend at left may be missing.

Lotus Flowers

The four lotus flowers to the right of Vishnu may be missing

 

 

I

II

III

IIIa

IV

IVa

V

VI

VII

VIII

IX

X

Xa

Top Left Cross

13

13

13

14

13

13

13

13

13

13

12

13

13

Top Right Cross

11

11

11

11

11

11

11

11

11

11

11

11

10

Bead below Vishnu

2

2

2

1

1

1

1

0

0

0

0

0

0

Vishnu's Sword

Left Hand

None

Left Hand

Left Hand

Left Hand

Left Hand

Left Hand

Left Hand

None

Left Hand

Left Hand

Left Hand

Left Hand

Stop in Legend

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

Yes

Yes

No

No

Yes

Bead above Vishnu

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

No

No

Tamil

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

Lotus Flowers

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

 

 

Xb

XI

XII

XIII

XIIIa

XIV

XIVa

XV

XVI

XVII

XVIII

XVIIIa

XIX

XX

Top Left Cross

13

11

11

9

12

11

11

11

11

9/11

11

11

11

11

Top Right Cross

10

10

11

11

9

9

9

9

9

8/9

9

9

9

9

Bead below Vishnu

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

Vishnu's Sword

Left Hand

Left Hand

Left Hand

Left Hand

Left Hand

Left Hand

Left Hand

Left Hand

Left Hand

Left Hand

Left Hand

Left Hand

Right Hand

None

Stop in Legend

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

No

No

Yes

Yes

Bead above Vishnu

Yes

Yes

No

No

No

Yes

Yes

No

No

No

No

Yes

No

Yes

Tamil

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

Missing

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

Lotus Flowers

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

Missing

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

OK

 

 

 

Example of a contemporary forgery. Wt = 9.12g. Diam = 26.1-26.9mm (from Bob Johnston)

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Silver, Five Fanams 1808 to 1812

 

(Persian = Panj Falam = Five fanams)

(Tamil = Anacu panam, Telugu = Aedu rukalu = Five fanams)

The value in Persian within a buckled garter. On the garter is the value in English:

FIVE FANAMS

All within a beaded border.

The value in Telugu in two lines surrounded by a ribbon, the ends of which are separated by a star. On the ribbon is the value in Tamil. All within a beaded border.

 

Official Weight (g)

4.65

Actual Weight (g)

3.92-4.74

Actual Diameter (mm)

20.5-22.7

Composition

Silver

Edge

Grained Right

Axis

↑↑

Mintage

3,953,694

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Obv

Rev

Obverse

Reverse

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

Buckle

Stops

Shading

Tongue

Tamil

Star

3.217

√ 342.

A

I

Large Sq

None

No

-

Inward

 

Ste, HC, Noonan

 

S

3.218

√ 342c.

B

II

Short Sq

None

No

Yes

Outward

 

HC

RR

3.218A

√ 342d.

B

III

Short Sq

None

No

Yes

Inward

Absent

SA

RRR

3.218C

√ 342e.

B1

I

Short Sq

None

No

No

Outward

 

HC

RR

3.219

343.

C

I

Short Sq

Centre

No

No

Inward

 

 

SNC. April 1980, p.147, No. 3030. No photo.

RR

3.220

√ 355.

D

I

Short Sq

Centre

No

Yes

Inward

 

Ste, HC, Noon

Many have the serifs on E touching making the word look like FIVB

S

3.221

√ 355c.

E

I

Long Sq

Centre

No

-

Inward

 

HC, Noon

S

3.221C

√ 355f.

E

IV

Long Sq

Centre

No

-

Inward. Na inverted

 

HC

RR

3.222

355e.

F

I

Long Sq

None

No

-

Inward

 

RR

3.223

√ 355g.

F

II

Long Sq

None

No

-

Outward

 

HC

RR

3.224

√ 344.

G

I

Square

None

No

No

Inward

 

HC

S

3.225

√ 344c.

H

I

Square

None

No

Yes

Inward

 

HC,SA

S

3.225C

√ 344e.

H1

I

Square

Centre

No

Yes

Inward

 

HC, RJ

S

3.225E

√ 344g.

H1

IV

Square

Centre

No

Yes

Inward Na inverted

 

HC

RR

3.226

√ 345.

I

I

Oval

None

No

Yes

Inward

 

Ste, HC

 

S

3.227

√ 346.

I

I

Oval

None

No

Yes

Inward

 

Ste

Axis: ↑↓

RR

3.228

√ 346c.

I

II

Oval

None

No

Yes

Outward

 

HC

RR

3.229

√ 347.

J

I

Oval

None

Yes

Yes

Inward

 

Ste, Noon, Her

 

S

3.230

√ 348.

J

I

Oval

None

Yes

Yes

Inward

 

Ste

Edge grained left.

RR

3.231

√ 349.

K

I

Oval

None

Yes

No

Inward

 

Ste, Noon

S

3.233

√ 351.

L

II

Dots

None

No

Yes

Outward

 

RJ, Noon

RR

3.234

√ 352.

M

I

Oval

Centre

No

Yes

Inward

 

Ste, Noon, HC

 

S

3.235

√ 353.

N

I

Oval

Centre

Yes

Yes

Inward

 

Ste, RJ, DNW, Noon

Some examples have shading on the left side of a disjointed buckle. See photos.

S

3.236

√ 354.

O

I

Oval

Centre

Yes

No

Inward

 

Ste, Noon, Stack

 

R

3.237

√ 356.

P

I

Dots

Centre

No

-

Inward

 

Ste, HC, Noble

Proof-like specimen in BM. Some have the serifs touching on the E making the word look like FIVB. These were previously listed as 3.240, Q/I.

R

3.238

√ 357.

P

II

Dots

Centre

No

-

Outward

 

Ste, HC, RJ, Noon

 

R

3.239

√ 356c.

P

III

Dots

Centre

No

-

Inward

Absent

HC

RRR

3.241

√ 358.

R

I

Oval

C+E

Yes

Yes

Inward

 

HC, Nummus

RR

3.241C

√ 358c.

S

I

Oval

C+E

No

Yes

Inward

 

Craig, SA

RR

 

Obverse Varieties

Buckle Shape

The buckle may be square (large, short or long), oval, or formed with dots. Some oval buckles may appear square but can be differentiated by the rounded corners and the shape of the tongue.

Stops in legend

The English legend may contain no stops, a centre stop alone or a centre stop plus an end stop (C+E).

Shading in buckle

The shading may or may not extend into the buckle.                                                                                                                    

Cross tongue

The buckle may or may not have a cross-tongue.

 

 

A

B

B1

C

D

E

F

G

H

H1

Buckle Shape

Large Square

Short Square

Short Square

Short Square

Short Square

Long Square

Long Square

Square

Square

Square

Stops in legend

None

None

None

Centre

Centre

Centre

None

None

None

Centre

Shading in buckle

No

No

No

No

No

No

No

No

No

No

Cross tongue

-

Yes

No

No

Yes

No

No

No

Yes

Yes

 

 

I

J

K

L

M

N

O

P

R

S

Buckle Shape

Oval

Oval

Oval

Dots

Oval

Oval

Oval

Dots

Oval

Oval

Stops in legend

None

None

None

None

Centre

Centre

Centre

Centre

C+E

C+E

Shading in buckle

No

Yes

Yes

No

No

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

No

Cross tongue

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

Yes

Yes

 

Reverse Varieties

 

Tamil Legend

The top of the Tamil legend may face inward or outward. The second letter from the right Na may be inverted.

Star

The star between the ends of the ribbon may be present or absent.

 

 

I

II

III

IV

Tamil Legend

Inward

Outward

Inward

Inward. Na inverted

Star

Present

Present

Absent

Present

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Silver, Two Fanams 1808 to 1812

 

(Persian = Do falam = Double fanam)

(Telugu = Renddu rukalu, Tamil = Irantu panam = Two fanams)

The value in Persian within a buckled garter. On the garter is the value in English:

DOUBLE FANAM

All within a beaded border.

The value in Telugu in two lines surrounded by a ribbon, the ends of which are separated by a star. On the ribbon is the value in Tamil. All within a beaded border.

 

Official Weight (g)

1.85

Actual Weight (g)

1.70-1.92

Actual Diameter (mm)

14.1-15.9

Composition

Silver

Edge

Grained Right

Axis

↑↑

Mintage

6,044,350

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Obv

Rev

Obverse

Reverse

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

Buckle

Legend

Marks

Stop

Shading

Tamil

3.242

√ 359.

A

II

Short Square

 

U

No

No

Outward

Ste, HC, RJ, Noon

Kaslove has one with no diacritical marks. Also occurs with the axis ↑↓. Also one that appears to have B over last E of DOUBLE. Also, with and without tongue in buckle. See Photos.

C

3.243

√ 360.

B

II

Short Square

 

U

Yes

No

Outward

Ste

Ref: Thompson.

RR

3.244

√ 361.

C

II

Short Square

 

U+M

No

No

Outward

Ste, Tody

 

R

3.246

√ 363.

E

II

Short Square

DOBLE

U

No

No

Outward

Ste, Noon

DOBLE

RR

3.247

√ 364.

F

II

Square

FANM

U

No

No

Outward

Ste

FANM

RR

3.248

√365.

G

II

Square

DOBBLE

U

No

No

Outward

Ste, RJ

U over first B in DOBBLE

RR

3.249

√ 366.

H

II

Square

 

U+M

No

No

Outward

RJ, Noon

R

3.249C

√ 366c.

H1

II

Square

 

U

No

No

Outward

RJ, Marudhar

R

3.250

√ 367.

I

I

Short Oval

 

U+M

No

No

Inward

Ste, Noon

 

S

3.251

√ 368.

J

I

Short Oval

 

U+M

No

Yes

Inward

RJ

R

3.252

√ 369.

K

I

Short Oval

 

M

No

No

Inward

Ste, RJ

 

R

3.253

√ 370.

L

I

Short Oval

 

U

No

Yes

Inward

Ste

 

R

3.254

√ 371.

M

I

Short Oval

 

U

No

No

Inward

Ste, Noon

 

N

3.256

√ 373.

O

I

Long Oval

 

U+M

No

No

Inward

Ste, Noon

N

3.256A

√ 373b.

O

II

Long Oval

 

U+M

No

No

Outward

Tody

RR

3.257

√ 374.

P

I

Long Oval

 

M

No

No

Inward

Ste

 

R

3.258

√ 374c.

P

II

Long Oval

 

M

No

No

Outward

SA

R

3.259

√ 375.

Q

I

Long Oval

 

U

No

No

Inward

Ste, RJ, Noon

 

S

3.260

√ 376.

R

I

Long Oval

 

U+M+L

No

No

Inward

Ste

 

R

3.261

√ 377.

S

I

Long Oval

 

M+L

Yes

No

Inward

Ste, HC

 

R

3.262

√ 378.

T

I

Long Oval

FANAW

U

No

No

Inward

HC, Noon

RR

3.262C

√ 378b.

T1

I

Rounded Oval

U+M

No

Yes

Inward

Noon, RJ

RR

3.263

√ 378c.

U

I

Dots

 

U+M

No

No

Inward

RJ

RR

3.264

√ 379.

U

II

Dots

 

U+M

No

No

Outward

Ste

RR

3.265

√ 380.

V

II

Dots

 

U

Yes

No

Outward

HC

R

3.265C

√ 380c.

W

I

Dots

FANAMƧ

U+M

No

No

Inward

HC, RJ

Obscured retrograde S. O over U in DOUBLE

RR

3.266

√ 381.

W

II

Dots

FANAMƧ

U+M

No

No

Outward

RJ, Ste

Retrograde S. O Over U in DOUBLE

RR

3.267

√ 381c.

X

I

None

U

No

-

Inward

RJ

RR

3.267A

√ 382.

X

II

None

 

U

No

-

Outward

RJ

RR

 

Obverse Varieties

Buckle Shape

The buckle may be short square, square, short oval, long oval, rounded oval, formed with dots or there may be no buckle.

Spelling of Legend

The legend may be mis-spelt, e.g. DOUBLE may be spelt DOBLE or DOBBLE, and FANAM spelt FANM, FANAMƧ or FANAW.

Diacritical marks

There should be one diacritical mark in the Persian legend. This mark is above the central legend (upper mark - U). There may be an extra dot within the letters (mid mark - M), or another mark below the letters (lower mark - L) or various combinations.

The mid-mark is not a diacritical mark and is probably a remnant from engraving the circles that form the ribbon.

Stop in Legend

There may or may not be a stop in the legend

Shading in Buckle

The shading may or may not extend into the buckle

 

 

A

B

C

E

F

G

H

Buckle Shape

Short Square

Short Square

Short Square

Short Square

Square

Square

Square

Spelling of Legend

Correct

Correct

Correct

DOBLE FANAM

DOUBLE FANM

DOBBLE

FANAM

Correct

Diacritical marks

U

U

U+M

U

U

U

U+M

Stop in Legend

No

Yes

No

No

No

No

No

Shading in Buckle

No

No

No

No

No

No

No

 

 

H1

I

J

K

L

M

Buckle Shape

Square

Short Oval

Short Oval

Short Oval

Short Oval

Short Oval

Spelling of Legend

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Diacritical marks

U

U+M

U+M

M

U

U

Stop in Legend

No

No

No

No

No

No

Shading in Buckle

No

No

Yes

No

Yes

No

 

 

O

P

Q

R

S

T

Buckle Shape

Long Oval

Long Oval

Long Oval

Long Oval

Long Oval

Long Oval

Spelling of Legend

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

FANAW

Diacritical marks

U+M

M

U

U+M+L

M+L

U

Stop in Legend

No

No

No

No

No

No

Shading in Buckle

No

No

No

No

No

No

 

 

T1

U

V

W

X

Buckle Shape

Rounded Oval

Dots

Dots

Dots

No Buckle

Spelling of Legend

Correct

Correct

Correct

FANAMƧ (retrograde S)

Correct

Diacritical marks

U+M

U+M

U

U+M

U

Stop in Legend

No

No

Yes

No

No

Shading in Buckle

Yes

No

No

No

-

The former obverse D has been deleted since it was found to be the same as obverse B

 

Reverse Varieties

Tamil legend

The top of the Tamil legend may face inwards or outwards

 

 

I

II

Tamil legend

Inward

Outward

 

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Silver, Fanam 1808 to 1812

 

(Persian = falam = fanam)

Madras 211 1808 Fanam Obverse A Rev

(Telugu = ruka, Tamil = panam = fanam)

The value in Persian surrounded by a buckled garter. On the garter is the value in English. All within a beaded border.

The value in Telugu in one line surrounded by a ribbon, the ends of which are separated by a star. On the ribbon is the value in Tamil. All within a beaded border

 

Official Weight (g)

0.88

Actual Weight (g)

0.83-0.96

Actual Diameter (mm)

10.4-12.4

Composition

Silver

Edge

Grained Right

Axis

↑↑

Mintage

1,545,412

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Obv

Obverse

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

Buckle

Mark

FANAM

3.268

√ 383.

A

Oval

Yes

 

Ste, HC, SA, Noon

 

N

3.269

√ 384.

B

Oval

No

 

Ste, HC, Noon

S

3.270

√ 384c.

C

Large Oval

No

Retro N

HC

RRR

3.270A

√ 384e.

C1

Large Oval

No

Craig, Marudhar, HC

R

3.271

√ 385.

D

Round

No

 

Ste, HC, Noon,

Occurs with and without a tongue in the buckle. See photos

S

3.271A

√ 385c.

D1

Long Round

No

 

HC, ClassNG

Specimens exist with and without tongue in buckle. See photos

R

3.271C

√ 385e.

D2

Short Round

No?

 

Jay Raiveeson

RR

3.272

√ 386c.

E

Square

Yes

 

Noon

 

RR

3.272C

√ 386.

E1

Curved Square

Yes

 

RJ, Noble

 

RR

3.273

√ 387.

F

Dots

Yes

 

HC, RJ

Ref: SNC September 1976, p. 319. Also, SNC April 1980, p. 147. Occurs with and without a tongue in the buckle. The number of dots in the buckle varies. See photos.

R

3.273C

√ 387c.

F1

Dots

No

 

RJ, HC

Occurs with and without a tongue in the buckle. The number of dots in the buckle varies. See photos.

R

3.274

√ 388.

G

None

Yes

 

Ste, HC, Noon

 

R

 

Obverse Varieties

Buckle Shape

The buckle may be oval, large oval, round, long round, short round, square or formed with dots.

Diacritical mark

There may or may not be a diacritical mark.

Letters in FANAM

The letters in FANAM may be correct or there may be a retrograde N

 

 

A

B

C

C1

D

D1

D2

E

E1

F

F1

G

Buckle Shape

Oval

Oval

Large Oval

Large Oval

Round

Long Round

Short Round

Square

Curved Square

Dots

Dots

No Buckle

Diacritical mark

Yes

No

No

No

No

No

No

Yes

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

Letters in FANAM

Correct

Correct

retro N

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

Correct

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Copper, Forty Cash 1807

 

The value in Persian and English. (Persian = In chahal kas ast = This is forty cash).

Value in Tamil and Telugu. (Telugu = Idi nalabhai kasulu, Tamil = Idu naipadu kasu = this is forty Cash).

 

Official Weight (g)

19.31

Actual Weight (g)

18.03-20.07

Actual Diameter (mm)

35.0-37.7

Composition

Copper

Edge

Plain

Axis

Varies. See below

Mintage (to March 1808)

514,922

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Obv

Rev

Obverse

Reverse

Axis

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

Separator

XL

Tamil

Separator

Letters

3.275

√ 389.

A

I

Plain

XL.

Correct

2 Dots/Star

4

↑↑

Ste, SA, Bald

RR

3.275C

√ 389c.

A

Ia

Plain

XL.

Correct

Dots

4

↑↑

RJ, Noon

 

RR

3.276

√ 390.

A

II

Plain

XL.

Correct

None

4

↑↑

Ste, Tody, Noon, Anantha Raghuraman

Some examples have a decoration at the bottom of the reverse. See photos.

R

3.276C

390c.

A

IV

Plain

XL.

Square

None

3

↑↑

Ref: BM 12360

RR

3.277

391.

A

VII

Plain

XL.

Square

None

4 small

↑↑

 

Ref:BM

RR

3.278

√ 393.

B

I

2 Plain

XL.

Correct

2 Dots/Star

4

↑↑

Ste, Noon, Bald

Ref: BM

S

3.279

394.

B

I

2 Plain

XL.

Correct

2 Dots/Star

4

↑↓

Ref: Withers

RR

3.280

√ 395.

B

II

2 Plain

XL.

Correct

None

4

↑↑

Ste, Bald

 

R

3.281

396.

B

II

2 Plain

XL.

Correct

None

4

↑↓

 

Ref: BM

RR

3.282

396c.

B

III

2 Plain

XL.

Modified

None

4

↑↑

Ref: Weir

RR

3.283

√ 397.

B

IV

2 Plain

XL.

Square

None

3

↑↑

Ste

RR

3.283C

√ 399.

B1

I

2 Plain

X.L.

Correct

2 Dots/Star

4

↑↑

RJ

RR

3.283E

√ 399c.

B1

V

2 Plain

X.L.

Square

None

4 large

↑↑

Bald

RR

3.284

√ 398.

B1

VII

2 Plain

X.L.

Square

None

4 small

↑↑

RJ

 

RR

3.285

√ 400.

C

III

Dash/3 dots/star

XL.

Modified

None

4

↑↑

Ste, HC, Bald, Noon

 

R

3.286

√ 401b.

C

V

Dash/3 dots/star

XL.

Square

None

4 large

↑↑

RJ

 

RR

3.287

√ 401.

C

VII

Dash/3 dots/star

XL.

Square

None

4 small

↑↑

Marudhar

RR

3.287C

√ 401e.

D

III

Dash/4 dots/star

XL.

Modified

None

4

↑↑

RJ

RR

3.288

√ 401c.

D

V

Dash/4 dots/star

XL.

Square

None

4 large

↑↓

Ste

RR

3.289

√ 402.

D

V

Dash/4 dots/star

XL.

Square

None

4 large

↑↑

Ste, RJ

RR

3.289C

√ 402c.

E

III

Dash/5 dots/star

XL.

Modified

None

4

↑↑

RJ

 

RR

3.289E

√ 402e.

E

V

Dash/5 dots/star

XL.

Square

None

4 large

↑↑

Tody

 

RR

3.290

√ 403.

E

VII

Dash/5 dots/star

XL.

Square

None

4 small

↑↑

Ste, Bald, RJ, Noon, SA

 

S

3.291

√ 403c.

F

V

Dash/5 dots/star

X.L

Square

None

4 large

↑↑

Bald, Tody

 

R

Some coins have a row of dots at the bottom of the obverse but since they may be off the flan or weakly struck, they are not used as a distinguishing feature

 

Obverse Varieties

Separator

The line separating the Persian from the English legends differs. It may be a single plain line, two parallel plain lines, or a number of dots and stars.

XL

The numerals XL are usually followed by a stop. On some coins the stop comes after the X or after both X and L

 

 

A

B

B1

C

D

E

F

Separator

Plain

2 Plain

2 Plain

Dash/3 dots/star

Dash/4dots/star

Dash/5 dots/star

Dash/5 dots/star

XL

XL dot

XL dot

X dot L dot

XL dot.

XL dot

XL dot

X dot L

 

Reverse Varieties

There may or may not be a tiny dot in the centre of the reverse. This is probably an engraving remnant and is not a distinguishing feature. The former reverse VI is therefore now considered to be reverse V.

 

First Tamil Letter

The first letter in the Tamil legend may take a number of different forms. This might be the correct form, a modified form or a square form.

Middle Tamil Letters

Letters in the middle of the first line of the Tamil legend vary.

Separator

The line separating the Tamil from the Telugu legends differs. It may be two dots and a star, dots alone, or no separator.

Letters on bottom line

Coins with the square form of the first Tamil letter come in three varieties. One with small letters and the usual 4 letters on the bottom line, one with larger (normal) letters and the usual 4 letters in the bottom line, and the last with larger letters and only 3 letters on the bottom line. The letter that normally appears at the start of the bottom line, appears at the end of the previous line in the last variety.

 

 

I

Ia

II

III

IV

V

VII

First Tamil Letter

Correct

Correct

Correct

Modified

Square

Square

Square

Middle Tamil Letters

2 Square

2 Square

2 Square

1 rounded

1 rounded

1 rounded

1 rounded

Separator

2 Dots/Star

Dots

None

None

None

None

None

Letters on bottom line

4

4

4

4

3

4 large

4 small

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Copper, Twenty Cash 1807

 

The value in Persian and English (Persian = In bist kas ast = this is twenty cash).

Top photo in three lines. Bottom in two.

Value in Tamil and Telugu. (Telugu = Idi iravai kasulu, Tamil = Idu irubadu kasu = this is twenty cash)

 

Official Weight (g)

9.65

Actual Weight (g)

7.97-10.25

Actual Diameter (mm)

25.9-27.4

Composition

Copper

Edge

Plain

Axis

Varies. See below

Mintage (to March 1808)

3,016,822

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Obv

Rev

Obverse

Reverse

Axis

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

Persian

Separator

Stop

Tamil

Letters

3.292

√ 404.

A

I

3 Lines

Plain

Yes

Correct

 

↑↑

HC, RJ

30mm flan. Usually weakly struck

RR

3.292A

√ 404b.

A

I

3 Lines

Plain

Yes

Correct

 

↑↑

RJ

This coin and the following are struck on smaller flans (26-27mm)

RR

3.293

√ 404c.

A

II

3 Lines

Plain

Yes

Modified

 

↑↑

Ste

 

RR

3.293A

√ 404e.

A

III

3 Lines

Plain

Yes

Square

 

Jay Raiveeson

NB 4th letter in 3rd line differs slightly from normal. See photo.

RR

3.294

405.

A

V

3 Lines

Plain

Yes

Malformed square

 

?

 

Recorded from Pridmore

RR

3.295

√ 405c.

B

I

3 Lines

Dash/3 dots/Star

Yes

Correct

 

↑↑

Bald, Noon

RR

3.296

√ 406.

B

II

3 Lines

Dash/3 dots/Star

Yes

Modified

 

↑↑

Ste, Noon

See photos for slightly different stars in separator

S

3.296C

√ 406c.

B

III

3 Lines

Dash/3 dots/Star

Yes

Square

 

↑↑

RJ

See photos for coin with dots shaped liked crescents in the obverse separator

R

3.297

√ 407.

B

III

3 Lines

Dash/3 dots/Star

Yes

Square

 

↑↓

Ste

 

R

3.297C

√ 407c.

B1

II

3 Lines

Dash/3 dots/Star

No

Modified

 

↑↑

Noon, Bald

 

RR

3.298

√ 408.

C

II

3 Lines

Dash/4 dots/Star

Yes

Modified

 

↑↑

Ste

See photos for a specimen with an extra tiny dot next to the star and specimens with some or all of the dots in the obverse separator shaped like crescents

S

3.299

√ 408c.

C

II

3 Lines

Dash/4 dots/Star

Yes

Modified

 

↑↓

RJ

 

R

3.299C

√ 408e.

C

III

3 Lines

Dash/4 dots/Star

Yes

Square

 

↑↑

RJ

 

R

3.300

√ 409.

C

III

3 Lines

Dash/4 dots/Star

Yes

Square

 

↑↓

Ste, Noble

 

R

3.301

√ 410.

D

II

3 Lines

Dash/4 dots/Star

No

Modified

 

↑↑

RJ, Ste

 

R

3.302

√ 411.

D

III

3 Lines

Dash/4 dots/Star

No

Square

 

↑↑

Ste, Noon

 

R

3.304

412.

D

III

3 Lines

Dash/4 dots/Star

No

Square

 

?

 

Striking in lead. SNC April 1980. Not sure about authenticity

RRR

3.305

√ 412c.

D

IV

3 Lines

Dash/4 dots/Star

No

Square

Missing

↑↓

HC

RR

3.305C

√ 412e.

D1

II

3 Lines

Dash/4/5 dots/Star

Yes

Modified

↑↑

RJ

RR

3.306

√ 413c.

E

III

3 Lines

Dash/4 cups/Star

No

Square

 

↑↑

RJ

 

RR

3.307

√ 413e.

E1

III

2 Lines

Dash3/ cups/Star

Yes

Square

 

↑↑

RJ

 

RR

3.308

√ 415.

F

III

2 Lines

Dash/4 dots/Star

Yes

Square

 

↑↑

RJ, HC, Noon

Exists as a special strike (Johnston). See photos

RR

3.309

√ 416.

F

III

2 Lines

Dash/4 dots/Star

Yes

Square

 

↑↓

RJ

RR

3.310

√ 417.

G

III

2 Lines

Dash/4 dots/Star

No

Square

 

↑↑

Ste, HC, Noon

 

RR

3.311

√ 418.

G

III

2 Lines

Dash/4 dots/Star

No

Square

 

↑↓

Ste, Bald

Also Ref: Weir. List issued Sept 2000.

RR

3.312

419.

H

III

2 Lines

Dots

Yes

Square

 

↑↑

 

Ref: BM (1935.0401.12370 or 12379?)

RRR

3.313

419c.

H

III

2 Lines

Dots

Yes

Square

 

↑↓

 

Ref: Weir.

RRR

Obverse A, A1 and A2 sometimes have a stop after CASH and/or an ornament at the bottom of the obverse and occasionally on the reverse. This has not beenused as a distinguishing feature because this area is often off the flan

 

Obverse Varieties

Arrangement of legend

The Persian letters may be arranged in different ways. Normally in three lines but may be in two

Separator

The line separating the Persian from the English legends differs. It may be a single plain line, a number of dots and stars, or a number of dots alone. The shape of the star varies, and the dots sometimes appear as crescents. Only worn specimens with no separator have been examined. The absence of the separator may therefore simply be due to wear and is not recorded as a variety.

Stop After XX

There is usually a stop after the value letters XX. Sometimes this is missing.

 

 

A

B

B1

C

D

D1

E

E1

F

G

H

Arrangement of legend

3 lines

3 lines

3 lines

3 lines

3 lines

3 lines

3 lines

2 Lines

2 lines

2 lines

2 lines

Separator

Plain

Dash/

3 dots/ Star

Dash/

3 dots/ Star

Dash/

4 dots/ Star

Dash/

4 dots/ Star

Dash/

4/5 dots

Dash/

4 cups/ Star

Dash/3 cups/ Star

Dash/

4 dots/ Star

Dash/4 dots/ Star

Dots

Stop After XX

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

No

Yes

No

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

 

Reverse Varieties

There may or may not be a tiny dot in the centre of the reverse. This is probably an engraving remnant and is not a distinguishing feature.

 

Tamil Letter

The first and third letter in the Tamil legend may take a number of different forms. This might be the correct form, a modified form, a square form, or a square form without the central upright (NoU). This last variety has been recorded from Pridmore and may be the result of the letter not being fully visible on the flan, rather than a die variety.

Missing Letters

On one variety several letters are engraved differently or missing.

 

 

I

II

III

IV

V

Tamil Letter

Correct

Modified

Square

Square

Malformed Square

Missing Letters

No

No

No

Yes

No

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Copper, Ten Cash 1807

The diameter of the flans can vary quite considerably. Pridmore records a separate catalogue entry for a very large flan specimen. However, my investigations indicate that this is simply a coin at the extremity of the spectrum of diameters.

 

The value in Persian and English. (Persian = In dah kas ast = this is ten cash)

The value in Tamil and Telugu. (Telugu = Idi padi kasulu, Tamil = Idu pattu kasu = this is ten Cash)

 

Official Weight (g)

4.83

Actual Weight (g)

4.24-5.20

Actual Diameter (mm)

22.7-26.8

Composition

Copper

Edge

Plain

Mintage (to March 1808)

2,127,922

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Obv

Rev

Obverse

Reverse

Axis

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

Separator

Stop

Letter

Separator

Tamil

Letter at Bottom

3.314

√ 420.

A

I

Plain

Yes

 

None

Correct

 

↑↑

Bald, Noon

Stop after CASH and ornament at bottom of obverse.

RR

3.315

√ 420c.

A

II

Plain

Yes

 

None

Modified

 

?

Ste, Bald

R

3.316

√ 421.

A

IV

Plain

Yes

 

None

Square

 

↑↑

Ste, RJ

 

RR

3.317

√ 422.

A

V

Plain

Yes

 

Line

Square

 

↑↑

Ste (Jay Lion), Noon, Bald

Some have larger diameter than others (Pr 233). Occurs with various combinations of stop after CASH & ornaments at bottom of obv and rev.

C

3.317A

√ 422a.

A

V

Plain

Yes

 

Line

Square

 

↑↑

RJ

Colon after X and CA over AS in CASH

RR

3.317C

√ 422b.

A1

V

Plain

Yes

Missing

Line

Square

 

↑↑

RJ, Ste

Stop after CASH. Ornament at bottom of obverse.

RR

3.317E

√ 422c.

A2

V

Plain

No

 

Line

Square

 

?

Coins Art, Noon

Stop after CASH. Ornament at bottom of obverse on some coins

RR

3.318

√ 425.

B

II

2 Plain

No

 

None

Modified

 

↑↑

Ste

RR

3.318A

√ 425c.

B

II

2 Plain

No

 

None

Modified

 

↑↓

Noon

RR

3.319

√ 426.

B

V

2 Plain

No

 

Line

Square

 

↑↑

Marudhar

Ref: Thompson

RR

3.320

√ 427.

C

II

Dash/3 Dots/Star

Yes

 

None

Modified

 

↑↑

Ste

 

R

3.321

√ 428c.

C

III

Dash/3 Dots/Star

Yes

 

None

Modified

Inverted

↑↓

Ste, RJ, Bald

 

R

3.322

√ 429.

C

IV

Dash3 Dots/Star

Yes

 

None

Square

 

↑↑

Ste, Noon, Noble

 

R

3.323

√ 429c.

D

II

Dash/5 Dots

Yes

 

None

Modified

 

↑↑

RJ, Bald, Noon

 

R

3.324

√ 430.

D

IV

Dash/5 dots

Yes

 

None

Square

 

↑↑

RJ, Noon

 

S

3.324A

√ 430a.

D

IV

Dash/5 dots

Yes

 

None

Square

 

↑↓

RJ

 

R

3.324C

√ 430b.

E

II

Dash/5 dots

No

 

None

Modified

 

↑↑

RJ, Marudhar

 

RR

3.325

√ 430c.

E

IV

Dash/5 dots

No

 

None

Square

 

↑↑

RJ, Noon, Marudhar

R

3.326

√ 431.

F

IV

Dash/6 dots

Yes

 

None

Square

 

↑↑

RJ, SA, Noon

S

3.326C

√ 431b.

F1

III

Dash/7 dots

Yes

 

None

Modified

Inverted

↑↑

Ste, RJ

RR

3.326D

√ 431d.

F1

IV

Dash/7 dots

Yes

 

None

Square

 

↑↑

RJ

RR

3.327

√ 431c.

G

II

7 dots

Yes

 

None

Modified

 

↑↑

RJ

RR

3.328

√ 432.

G

IV

7 dots

Yes

 

None

Square

 

↑↑

Ste

 

S

3.329

√ 433.

H

II

9 dots

Yes

 

None

Modified

 

↑↑

Ste

 

R

3.329C

√ 433c.

H

IV

9 dots

Yes

 

None

Square

 

?

Her

 

RR

 

Obverse Varieties

Separator

The line separating the Persian from the English legends differs. It may be a plain line, two plain lines, a star with three dots and a dash either side, a number of dots with dashes either side, or a number of dots alone. The single plain line variety often has a second thin line immediately underneath. The double plain line variety is two clearly separated lines of about the same width

Stop After X

There is usually a stop after the X value letter. Sometimes this is missing.

Missing Letter

On one variety the letter alif is missing from the bottom right of the Persian legend

 

 

A

A1

A2

B

C

D

E

F

F1

G

H

Separator

Plain

Plain

Plain

Two Plain

Dash/3 Dots/Star

5 dots/dash

Dash/5 dots

Dash/6 dots

Dash/7 dots

7 Dots

9 Dots

Stop After X

Yes

Yes

No

No

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Missing Letter

No

Yes

No

No

No

No

No

No

No

No

No

 

Reverse Varieties

Separator

There may or may not be a dividing line between the Tamil and Telugu legends.

First Tamil Letter

The first letter in the Tamil legend may take a number of different forms. This might be the correct form, a modified form or a square form.

Centre Letter at Bottom

The letter in the centre of the bottom line may be correct or inverted

 

 

I

II

III

IV

V

Separator

None

None

None

None

Plain Line

First Tamil Letter

Correct

Modified

Modified

Square

Square

Centre Letter at Bottom

Correct

Correct

Inverted

Correct

Correct

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Copper, Five Cash 1807

 

The value in Persian and English (Persian = In panj kas ast = this is five cash)

The value in Tamil and Telugu. (Telugu = Idu anacu kasu, Tamil = Idi aedu kasulu = this is five Cash)

The beaded border is not usually visible. The top photo is more typical.

 

Official Weight (g)

2.41

Actual Weight (g)

1.99-2.70

Actual Diameter (mm)

19.6-21.3

Composition

Copper

Edge

Plain

Axis

Varies. See below

Mintage (to March 1808)

1,216,822

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Obv

Obverse

Axis

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

Separator

Value

Stop

3.330

√ 434.

A

None

V CASH

Yes

↑↓

Ste, Bald

 

R

3.331

√ 435.

A

None

”

Yes

↑↑

RJ

 

R

3.332

√ 437.

B

7 Dots

”

Yes

↑↑

Ste, Noon

 

R

3.333

√ 436a.

B

7 Dots

”

Yes

↑↓

Ste

See photos for a specimen with re-engraved dots

R

3.333A

√ 436b3.

B1

8 Dots

”

Yes

↑↑

ClassNG

RR

3.333E

√ 436.

C

9 Dots

”

Yes

↑↓

Ste, SA

 

R

3.333F

√ 436g.

C1

10 Dots

”

Yes

Jay Lion

 

RR

3.333G

√ 436b.

D

Dash/5 dots

”

Yes

↑↑

RJ, SA

 

R

3.333H

√ 436b6.

D1

Dash/7 dots

”

No

↑↑

Ste, Bald

 

R

3.333i

√ 436b9.

D1

Dash/7dots

”

No

↑↓

Her

Dashes in separator are sometimes very short

R

3.333J

√ 436c.

E

Dots & Star

X CASH

Yes

↑↓

RJ

English value X CASH

RR

The previously listed 3.333c with 9 dots and axis ↑↑ is now listed as 3.333H.

 

Obverse Varieties

Separator

The line separating the Persian from the English legends differs. It may be dots and dash, a number of dots alone, dots and star, or no separator. The dashes are sometimes very short. Any elongation of the first and last dot is considered a dash.

English Value

The English value is usually expressed as ‘V CASH’ on one example it is ‘X CASH’ but the value in all other languages is five cash, and the weight is that of a 5 cash coin.

Stop

There is usually a stop after the value letter V or X. Sometimes this is missing

There may also be varieties with large and small English letters. Not enough examples have been examined to clarify this point.

 

 

A

B

B1

C

C1

D

D1

E

Separator

None

7 Dots

8 Dots

9 Dots

10 Dots

Dash/5 dots

Dash/7 dots

Dots & Star

English Value

V CASH

V CASH

V CASH

V Cash

V CASH

V CASH

V CASH

X CASH

Stop

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Copper, Two & a Half Cash 1807

 

Madras 273 Two and a half Cash Obv

Madras 274 Two and a half Cash Rev

The value in Persian and English (Persian = In do va-nim kas ast = This is two and a half cash). Within a beaded circle.

The value in Tamil and Telugu. (Tamil = Idu 2½ kasu, Telugu = Idi 2½ kasulu = this is 2½cash). Within a beaded circle.

 

Official Weight (g)

1.21

Actual Weight (g)

Varies. See table below

Actual Diameter (mm)

”

Composition

Copper

Edge

Plain

Mintage(up to March 1808)

561,622

Axis

Varies. See below

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Obv

Bar

Axis

Actual wt (g)

Actual Diam (mm)

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

3.334

√ 438.

A

Yes

↑↓

1.06-1.30

15.5-17.6

Ste, Tody, Noon, Bald, HC, eBay

The die axis on many recorded specimens is not known

R

3.334C

√ 438c.

A

Yes

↑↑

”

”

Ste

 

R

3.335

√ 439.

B

No

↑↑

”

”

Ste,

 

R

3.336

√ 440.

B

No

↑↓

”

”

Ste, Bald, Newey

The die axis on many of the recorded specimens is not known

R

3.336C

√ 440c.

B

No

↑↓

”

19.6-20.0

RJ

Broad flan, normal weight. Large numeral 2 in 2½

RR

3.337

√ 441.

B

No

↑↑

2.32-2.56

20.5-21.1

RJ

Ref: BM 1935.0401.12380 and Kaslove. Same size and weight as five cash. The letters are noticeable larger and spread out to fill the flan.

RRR

 

Obverse Varieties

Bar in 1/2

There may or may not be a horizontal bar in 1/2

The size of the numeral 2 in 2½ was previously used to differentiate types but since some coins have an intermediate sized 2, the presence or absence of a horizontal bar in ½ is now used.

 

 

A

B

Bar in 1/2

Yes

No

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Silver, Double, Single & Half  Rupee 1807

The rupee and double rupee were struck directly onto Spanish 8 reales coins.

Unlike the rupee and fractions, the double rupee engraving varies widely like the 1807-1812 pagoda/fanam/cash series. The double rupee dies were engraved in Madras whilst the dies for the rupees and fractions were prepared from matrix dies sent from Calcutta. These denominations have the Calcutta privy mark of a dot located above two diamonds on the obverse, whilst the double rupees do not.

 

sikka mubārak bādshāh ghāzī aziz-al-dīn muḥammad. ‘ālamgīr. [AH] (= The auspicious coin of the Victorious Emperor. Chosen of the faith of Muḥammad. ‘Ālamgīr. [AH]). All within a toothed border for double rupee and plain for single and half.

ẓarb arkāt sanah [RY] julūs maimanat mānūs (= Struck at Arkāt in the [RY] year of his reign of tranquil prosperity). All within a toothed border for double rupee and plain for single and half.

 

 

Double Rupee

Rupee

Half Rupee

Official Weight (g)

24.19

12.10

6.05

Actual Weight (g)

23.63-24.40

11.96-12.18

5.92-6.07

Actual Diameter (mm)

38.8-40.3

26.8-28.2

21.8-22.4

Composition

Silver

Edge

Grained Right

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Pr No.

Denomination

Obv

Rev

AH

RY

Axis

Provenance

Comments

Mintage

Rarity

3.338

√ 443.

245

Double Rupee

A

I

1172

6

↑↑

Ste, Coins Art, Bombay, RJ, Noon

 

165,712

R

3.339

444.

245

”

A

I

1172

6

↑↓

 

Ref: BM

RR

3.340

√ 445a.

245

”

A

I

1172

6

↑↑

Ste, Bombay (same specimen), Noon

Mint specimen

RRR

3.341

√ 442.

-

”

A

I

1177

6

↑↑

Noon

RRR

3.342

√ 444c.

-

”

A

I

No date

6

 

HC,  Dinyar Maddon (via HC)

RRR

3.343

√ 445.

246

”

B

II

1172

2

↑↑

Ste, Noble, Noon

 

RR

3.344

√ 446.

247

Rupee

-

-

1172

6

”

Ste, Spink, Noon

 

2,144,806

R

3.344A

√ 446c.

247

”

-

-

1172

6

↑↑

RJ

Mint specimen

RRR

3.345

√ 447.

247

”

-

-

1172

6

↑↓

Ste

 

RR

3.346

√ 447c.

-

Copper uniface Rupee

-

-

1172

-

-

Bald

RRR

3.347

√ 447e.

-

8 reales overstruck with rupee die

-

-

 

-

-

Ste

 

RRR

3.348

√ 448.

248

Half Rupee

-

-

1172

6

↑↑

Ste, Noon

 

108,180

RR

3.349

√ 449.

-

”

-

-

1172

6

↑↑

RJ

Mint specimen

RRR

 

Obverse Varieties for Double Rupee

Decorative Dots

There may or may not be decorative dots on the obverse. The number and position of these dots vary.

 

 

A

B

Decorative Dots

Yes

No

 

Reverse Varieties for Double Rupee

Decorative Dots

There may or may not be decorative dots on the reverse. The number and position of these dots vary.

 

 

I

II

Decorative Dots

Yes

No

NB. Reverse III has been deleted because more specimens have become available showing that differences in arrangement of dot groups occur on almost every specimen.

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Silver, Quarter & Eighth Rupee 1807

 

sikka bādshāh ‘ālamgīr. 1172. (= Coin of the Emperor. ‘Ālamgīr). 1172. All within a plain border.

ẓarb arkāt sanah [RY] (= Struck at Arkot in the [RY] year). All within a plain border

 

 

Quarter Rupee

Eighth Rupee

Official Weight (g)

3.02

1.51

Actual Weight (g)

2.99-3.05

1.54

Actual Diameter (mm)

16.5-17.2

16.4-16.8

Composition

Silver

Edge

Grained Right

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Pr No.

Denomination

AH

RY

Axis

Provenance

Comments

Mintage

Rarity

3.350

√ 450.

249

Quarter Rupee

1172

6

↑↑

Ste, RJ

 

18,216

RRR

3.350A

√ 450c.

249

”

1172

6

↑↑

RJ

Mint specimen

RRR

3.351

√ 451.

250

Eighth Rupee

1172

6

↑↑

Ste

 

20,046

RRR

3.351A

√ 451c.

250

”

1172

6

↑↑

RJ

 

RRR

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Silver, Four Annas 1808

 

(= Chahar ana rupiya = Four annas of a rupee)

(Tamil = Nalu ana, Telugu = Nalugu analu = Four annas)

The value in Persian within a buckled garter. On the garter is the value in English.

FOUR ANNAS

All within a beaded border.

The value in Telugu in two lines separated by a bead surrounded by a ribbon, the ends of which are separated by a star. On the ribbon is the value in Tamil.

 

Official Weight (g)

2.97

Actual Weight (g)

2.74-2.96

Actual Diameter (mm)

16.4-17.2

Composition

Silver

Edge

Grained Right

Axis

↑↑

Mintage

165,712

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Pr. No.

Obv

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

3.352

√ 452.

305

A

Ste, RJ, Noon, Tody, Oswal

The tail of the left letter in the outer Tamil legend on the reverse points inward or outward.

RR

3.353

√ 453.

306

B

Ste, RJ, HC, Noon

 

RR

 

Obverse Varieties

Stop in Legend

There may or may not be a centre stop in the English legend.

 

 

A

B

Stop in Legend

None

Centre

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Silver, Two Annas 1807

Originally described as ‘possibly a pattern’, but now believed to be a small issue in 1807

 

Do ana rupiya (= Two annas of a rupee)

Tamil = Irantu ana; Telugu = Renddu analu (= Two annas)

 

Actual Weight (g)

1.41-1.56

Actual Diameter (mm)

15.8-16.5

Composition

Silver

Edge

Grained Right

Axis

Varies. See below

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Pr No.

Axis

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

3.354

√ 454.

309

↑↓

Ste, Tody

RR

3.354A

√ 454b.

309

↑↓

Noon

Mint specimen

RRR

3.354B

√ 454c.

309

↑↑

Ste, RJ

RR

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Silver, Two Annas 1808

 

The value in Persian within a buckled garter. On the garter is the value in English.

TWO ANNAS

All within a beaded border. (Persian = Do ana rupiya = Two annas of a rupee)

The value in Telugu in two lines separated by a bead surrounded by a ribbon, the ends of which are separated by a star. On the ribbon is the value in Tamil. All within a beaded border. (Tamil = Irantu ana, Telugu = Renddu analu = Two annas).

 

Official Weight (g)

1.48

Actual Weight (g)

1.42-1.51

Actual Diameter (mm)

16.1-16.8

Composition

Silver

Edge

Grained Right

Mintage

64,558

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Pr No.

Obv

Rev

Axis

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

3.355

√ 455.

307

B

II

↑↑

Ste, RJ, Marudhar, Noon

 

RR

3.356

√ 456.

308

B

III

“

Noon

No star

RRR

3.357

√ 457.

307

C

IV

“

Ste, Stack

Telugu letter na inverted

RR

3.357A

√ 457c.

307

C

V

?

Bald

Telugu letter na written differently and shading on ends of ribbon on reverse.

RR

The previous obverse A and reverse I are now listed as the 1807 issue above.

 

Obverse Varieties

Stop in Legend

There may or may not be a stop in the English legend.

 

 

B

C

Stop in Legend

None

Centre

 

Reverse Varieties

Star

There may or may not be a star separating the ends of the ribbon.

Telugu Legend

The bottom centre letter na of the Telugu legend may be normal, inverted or written differently

Shading in ribbon

There may or may not be shading on the ends of the ribbon

 

 

II

III

IV

V

Star

Yes

No

Yes

Yes

Telugu Legend

Normal

Normal

Inverted

Differs

Shading in Ribbon

No

No

No

Yes

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Copper, Two Dubs 1807-1808

 

A Persian Inscription in four lines: do falūs Hanarabal Kampini isavi 1807 (= Two falūs of the Honourable Company. Christian year 1807).

The value in Telugu in three lines within a plain circle. Around this is the value in Tamil. All within another plain circle. (Telugu = Kampini varuvesana renddu dabbulu, Tamil = Kumpini yarapotta irantu dabbu = Honourable Company, two dubs).

 

Official Weight (g)

20.61

Actual Weight (g)

20.69-22.13

Actual Diameter (mm)

39.9-40.3

Composition

Copper

Edge

Plain

Axis

↑↓

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Pr No.

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

3.358

√ 458.

327

Ste, Noon, Bald

There appear to be two obv varieties – one with the bottom of the Persian legend reaching almost to the rim of the coin, and one with it somewhat shorter (R. Weir). Because of the rarity of these coins, insufficient specimens have been examined to catalogue these as different varieties

RRR

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Copper, Dub 1807-1808, Type 1

 

A Persian Inscription in four lines: Falūs Hanarabal Kampani isavi 1807 = Falūs of the honourable Company. Christian year 1807. All within a toothed rim.

The value in Telugu in three lines. Within a toothed rim. (Telugu = Kampini varuvesana dabbulu = Honourable Company, dub). All within a toothed rim.

 

Official Weight (g)

10.31

Actual Weight (g)

9.88-11.57

Actual Diameter (mm)

26.4-27.9

Composition

Copper

Edge

Plain

Axis

Varies. See below

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Pr. No.

Axis

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

3.359

√ 459.

328

↑↑

Ste,

 

RR

3.359A

√ 459e.

328

↑↓

Bald, Noon

 

RR

3.359B

√ 459g.

328

↑↓

Noon

Mint specimen

RRR

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Copper, Dub 1807-1808, Type 2

This coin appears to use an obverse design similar to the dub shown above and the reverse design similar to the half dub shown below. Only one specimen has been seen so far.

 

The Inscription in four lines: Falūs Hanarabal Kampani isavi 1807 = Falūs of the honourable Company. Christian year 1807. All within a toothed rim.

The value in Telugu in three lines within a plain circle. Around this is the value in Tamil. All within another plain circle. (Telugu = Kampini varuvesana dabbu, Tamil = Kumpini yarapotta dabbu = Honourable Company, dub).

 

Official Weight (g)

10.31

Actual Weight (g)

10.57

Actual Diameter (mm)

~26

Composition

Copper

Edge

Plain

Axis

↑↑

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Pr. No.

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

3.360

√ 459c.

-

Bald

 

RRR

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Copper, Half Dub 1807 to 1808

 

A Persian Inscription in four lines: Nim falūs Hanarabal Kampani isavi 1807 = Half falūs of the honourable Company. Christian year 1807

The value in Telugu in three lines within a plain circle. Around this is the value in Tamil. All within another plain circle. (Telugu = Kampini varuvesana Ara dabbu, Tamil = Kumpini yarapotta Arai dabbu = Honourable Company, half dub).

 

Official Weight (g)

5.15

Actual Weight (g)

4.94-5.25

Actual Diameter (mm)

21.6-22.3

Composition

Copper

Edge

Plain

Axis

Varies. See below

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Pr. No.

Obv

Axis

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

3.361

√ 461.

329

A

↑↑

Noon

Ref: BM. Large and small date varieties (R. Weir)

R

3.362

√ 460.

329

A

↑↓

Ste, Bald, Noon

Large and small date varieties (R. Weir)

S

3.362A

√ 460c.

329

A

↑↓

Noon

Mint specimen

RRR

3.363

√ 462.

330

B

↑↓

Ste

 

R

 

Obverse Varieties

Date

The date may be correct (1807) or incorrect (7107).

 

 

A

B

Date

Correct

Incorrect

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Copper, Quarter Dub 1807 to 1808

 

The value in Telugu. Telugu = Kampini varuvesana kal dabbu = Honourable Company quarter dub.

The value in Tamil in three lines. (Tamil = Kumpini yarapotta kal dabbu = Honourable Company, quarter dub).

 

Official Weight (g)

2.57

Actual Weight (g)

2.52-2.68

Actual Diameter (mm)

16.2-16.8

Composition

Copper

Edge

Plain

Axis

Varies. See below

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Pr. No.

Axis

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

3.364

√ 463.

331

↑↑

RJ

R

3.365

√ 464.

331

↑↓

Ste, Bald, Noon

 

S

3.365A

√ 464c.

331

↑↓

RJ

Mint specimen

RRR

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Copper, Regulating Dub 1807 to 1808

 

A Persian Inscription in four lines: In Sikka Hanarabal Kampani seh falūs yek falam-i-Khurd ast. Isavi 1807 = this coin of the Honourable Company and three falūs are one small fanam. Christian year 1807.

The value in Telugu in five lines within a plain circle. Around this is the value in Tamil. All within another plain circle. (Telugu = idi nara mudu kadta dabbulu numera cinara ruku, Tamil = idu ammunu pudu dabbum oru sinna panam = this and three new dubs are one small fanam.

 

Official Weight (g)

7.56

Actual Weight (g)

7.40-7.61

Actual Diameter (mm)

26.4-26.8

Composition

Copper

Edge

Plain

Axis

Varies. See below

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Pr. No.

Axis

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

3.366

√ 465.

336

↑↓

Ste, HC, Noon

 

S

3.367

√ 466.

336

↑↑

HC

Ref: Kaslove

S

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Copper, Two Dubs 1808 to 1812

 

A Persian Inscription in four lines: Do falūs Hanarabal Kampani isavi 1808 = Two falūs of the honourable Company. Christian year 1808

The value in Telugu in three lines. The value in English below. Within a toothed rim. (Telugu = Kampani varuvesana renddu dabbulu = Honourable Company, two dubs).

 

Official Weight (g)

20.61

Actual Weight (g)

19.69

Actual Diameter (mm)

36.0

Composition

Copper

Edge

Plain

Axis

↑↑

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Pr. No.

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

3.368

√ 467.

332

Pr.

Not sold in last 40 years. BM has an example, as has at least one private collector.

RRR

 

Photos from Girish Veera via S. Bhandare

These are all fakes

 

Photo below from Heritage sale 61550 (sept 2025), lot 21196. Probable fake

 

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Copper, Dub 1808 to 1812

 

A Persian Inscription in four lines: Falūs Hanarabal Kampani isavi 1808 = Falūs of the honourable Company. Christian year 1808

The value in Telugu in three lines. The value in English below. Within a toothed rim. (Telugu = Kampini varuvesana dabbulu = Honourable Company, dub).

 

Official Weight (g)

10.31

Actual Weight (g)

9.55-10.46

Actual Diameter (mm)

Varies. See table below

Composition

Copper

Edge

Plain

Axis

↑↑

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Pr. No.

Actual Diam (mm)

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

3.369

√ 468.

333

26.7-27.0

RJ, Noon

Large flan variety. Occurs with large and small dates

RR

3.370

√ 469.

334

20.9-24.3

Ste, Noon

Small flan variety. Also occurs with large and small dates (R. Weir)

R

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Copper, Half Dub 1808 to 1812

 

Madras 149 Half Dub 1808 Large Date Obv

Madras 150 Half Dub 1808 Large Date Rev

A Persian Inscription in four lines: Nim falūs Hanarabal Kampani isavi 1808 = Half falūs of the honourable Company. Christian year 1808

The value in Telugu in three lines. The value in English below. Within a toothed rim. (Telugu = Kampini varuvesana Ara dabbu = Honourable Company, half dub).

 

Official Weight (g)

5.15

Actual Weight (g)

4.61-5.36

Actual Diameter (mm)

25.8-28.1

Composition

Copper

Edge

Plain

Axis

↑↑

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Pr. No.

Obv

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

3.371

√ 470.

335

A

Ste, Noon

 

S

3.372

√ 471.

335

B

Ste, Noon, Murali Thantry

 

S

 

Obverse Varieties

Date Size

The date may be large or small.

 

 

A

B

Date Size

Small

Large

 

Madras Mint – Reformation – Copper, Regulating Dub 1808 to 1812

 

A Persian Inscription in four lines: In Sikka Hanarabal Kampani seh falūs yek falam-i-Khurd ast. Isavi 1808 = this coin of the Honourable Company and three falūs is one small fanam. Christian year 1808

The value in Telugu in five lines within a plain circle. Around this is the value in Tamil. All within another plain circle. (Telugu = idi nara mudu kadta dabbulu numera cinara ruku, Tamil = idu ammunu pudu dabbum oru sinna panam = This and three new dubs are one small fanam

 

Official Weight (g)

7.56

Actual Weight (g)

6.87-7.65

Actual Diameter (mm)

26.5-27.0

Composition

Copper

Edge

Plain

Axis

↑↑

 

Catalogue

Cat No.

Photo Link

Pr. No.

Provenance

Comments

Rarity

3.373

√ 472.

337

Ste, RJ

 

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